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Life is changing..
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
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#1426 | |
THIS .... IS... ARROWHEAD!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Houston, Tx
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No they arn't, what are you talking about? |
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#1427 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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#1428 | |
Special Teams ACE!!!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
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Dee Ford's ass is likely out the door not because of the scheme switch. It's probably gone because he's going to be expensive, and he's also a butt****ing moron who can't line up correctly. Justin Houston for the same reason. If he's gone, it's because he's really ****ing expensive. Not because we made the scheme switch. If we had stayed with the 3-4, we might have let these guys walk anyway. Again. The scheme switch is nice because it will be friendlier to young players, which means we don't have to rely on brokedick vets. We also have all kinds of out-of-place talent we've acquired like Hitchens, Kpass, and Speaks that might find new life in this defense, because the way things were going for them in the 3-4, they were going to be busts. No, it's not a guarantee, but it gives us a better chance with them. That's a positive of the switch. There are drawbacks to it as well. You and BleedingVagina have brought them up. Do the positives outweigh the negatives? That's where the disagreement is. |
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#1429 |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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To be fair, ChiefNJ has a long history of just being a contrarian. He's brought up some good points in counterpoint but most likely solely because they are counter.
On the other hand, BR actually believes that changing to the 4-3 is a big deal and going to screw the team. |
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#1430 | |
THIS .... IS... ARROWHEAD!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Houston, Tx
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Jeff Heath (Sorenson Cloan) and Byron Jones (Maybe good?) are tho We need to look at their DT's tho, because I think David Irving and Tyrone Crawford are prime cute candidates. |
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#1431 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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It's also an exercise in futility to compare the Chiefs to Chicago and Baltimore defensively. Those teams are built around defense, defensive squads.
The Chiefs aren't. They aren't going to be at the level of those teams until they start putting that many resources into the defense. They need a good solid defense. They don't need an elite unit over there. |
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#1432 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Byron Jones is a top 5 corner in the league, he's gonna get PAID a shitload. This also kind of shows my issue with people saying the Chiefs need to draft all defense or a bunch of corners this year. If they hit, you've got them all coming due at one time. Now that's a nice problem to have, but it's just another salary issue. |
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#1433 | |
THIS .... IS... ARROWHEAD!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Houston, Tx
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Statistical Analysis of Spag defense not preforming isn't a good point? Pointing our recent examples of switching Defensive Base formations can be tricky isn't a good point? And when I said "Screw the team" (Never did) I said this doesn't somehow make us a better defense. In fact I repeated numerous times that I believe pass rush will be cut in half, and other categories would remain close to same. I'm sorry you disagree with my well thought out, analytically backedup opinion. Again, I've also said "I HOPE I'M WRONG" |
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#1434 | |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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How many times do you have to hear it before you realize how freaking wrong you are? |
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#1435 | |
THIS .... IS... ARROWHEAD!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Houston, Tx
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Of course Dak/Zeke/Cooper will eat alot of that, but their offensive linemen have taken some huge discounts. |
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#1436 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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But again, as you said here those 3 are going to eat up a big ass portion of that. Plus you've got Jaylon Smith and Byron Jones on the D who are going to take up a massive portion of it. That looks like a big number. But you put a top WR salary on there, the top RB salary and a franchise QB on there and it's gonna shrink super ass fast. I might call them up and see if they'd take a 2nd rounder for Byron Jones. |
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#1437 | |
THIS .... IS... ARROWHEAD!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Houston, Tx
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Losing Ford is 100% going to be based on scheme change if/when it happens. Also there is no way of knowing how EITHER will preform in a 4-3. So yeah, I'd have kept 3-4 because at least then you KNEW where the weakness was. Now, we get to play a game of "What do we need next year". I'm sorry to you disagree, but I don't ****ing care. |
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#1438 | |
THIS .... IS... ARROWHEAD!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Houston, Tx
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P.S. I would LOVE JAYLON SMITH on this defense |
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#1439 | |
Most Valuable Villain
Join Date: Dec 2006
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#1440 | |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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![]() We've been talking about the possibility of tagging and trading Ford for OVER A YEAR. We've been talking about cutting Houston for even longer. We've been talking about both possibilities for MONTHS longer than any discussion about changing schemes. Keep pretending the scheme change has anything at all to do with it. You're entitled to be wrong. |
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