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Life is changing..
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
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#1411 | |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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As for "getting rid of them" you misunderstand. I don't freaking care. If they can get picks out of Ford, fine with me. If they can get a pay cut out of Houston, even better. I care about Patrick Mahomes and doing whatever it takes to surround the kid with better units. This defense needs GUTTED. NOBODY is irreplaceable when a unit is this bad. Sorry. |
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#1412 | |
Has a particular set of skills
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
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I have no faith Eric Berry will come back and contribute in any significant way. I think spending the money for Thomas to help lead the defense is a good option. |
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#1413 |
Regular
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Springfield,MO
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Since the NFL only plays a base defense about 35% of the time, 4-3/3-4 is important only in what it allows you to do on 2nd/3rd down. I think the Chiefs know what players likely fit the base defense, but the question is if a player is a sub package player, can you get the amount of value out of what you have to pay him? Veach is building the club with an eye on the cap and I think will draft best defensive talent available. I would not be surprised at all if we trade down from our one based on player value and team needs. So I bet we tag Ford and look for 4-3 players in the draft or on the street. If someone wants Ford at an advantageous deal then let him go.
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#1414 |
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Colorado
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According to the post by Thigpen over on AP, he thinks there at least 1/2 dozen safeties and CBs in this years draft class that are better than what's on the Chiefs roster with the exception of EB.
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#1415 |
SuperBowl or bust
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
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Chadia is on 810 making good points
Spags defense is easy to learn and play fast Plays younger players a lot Likes smaller players Ford has tons of trade value but Spags likes his kind of player All the players fit his scheme Sutton held talent back especially young guys Will move DL guys around for matchups Jones will explode |
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#1416 | |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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#1417 |
SuperBowl or bust
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
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Totally agree. Tag him and if his back problems are gone, pay him next offseason. The longer he goes without back problems, the more his core strength will improve as will his run defense.
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#1418 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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You wouldn't get any value that way either. Tag him, trade him or play him a year and let him walk. |
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#1419 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Also, looking at the Cowboys stuff as we were yesterday, their whole defensive back field are free agents next year. They may make a run at Thomas, but if they do they're gonna end up letting some corners walk.
That's a place the Chiefs could look to do some trading potentiall. |
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#1420 |
Three-Pat
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
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#1421 |
Andy Reid Supporter
Join Date: Apr 2012
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I am giving Tanoh and Speaks a completely clean slate. They were never meant to be 3-4 OLB’s.
These guys have been playing in a 4-3 for years. Let’s see what they can do in a position that actually gives them a fair chance. |
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#1422 | |
Special Teams ACE!!!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
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6 CBs are frequently gone by the early 2nd round. Oftentimes 6 safeties are gone by the end of the 2nd round. He's saying 1st and 2nd round rookie talent is better than all the random middle round turds, AIDS-riddled vets, and wheelchair-bound homeless dudes with low spirit? Whaaaa? Say it ain't so! |
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#1423 | |
Most Valuable Villain
Join Date: Dec 2006
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DJLN has mentioned it countless times but you end up ****ing yourself by tagging a player and then signing him to a deal a year later because you're increasing the average cost per season that he's going to start at. |
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#1424 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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The contract number would start with "whats the tag number for the first 2 years, start with that as the guaranteed money". You can possibly build in some value with a long term deal. Once you tag them once, that's gone. |
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#1425 | |
MVP
Join Date: Jan 2013
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