***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

What were our final numbers today compared to yesterday?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Trump mentioned during his daily COVID-19 briefing today that the federal government may recommend that everyone wear a mask in public.

Apparently this is part of a roadmap put out by the former FDA Commissioner, Scott Gottlieb.

Could this become the next mandate/requirement, similar to the shelter at home orders... everyone has to wear a mask/cover their face when out in public?

If we all wore a mask in public...we probably wouldn't even need to really shelter in place...

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I had to go to Home Depot again today (plumbing!) and I'd say 75% of the people in line and in the store had on masks and probably 50% had on gloves.

Sounds like your residents are smart. I've seen two, count 'em two, people in Kansas City wearing masks in the two weeks. I've been out about 5-6 times to get food, take out etc.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Masks were extremely effective for SARS with odds ratios of 0.27 and a p value of less than 0.0001.

They were the single most effective thing you could do.

Which is really why it was so infuriating that media articles kept telling us before this outbreak that they didn't work. They work. Period. Fail proof? No. but they work.

I just hate when the media lies to us. I get that they didn't want us to go out and buy a bunch of masks, but tell us the ****ing truth and let me decide what to think and do.

[O.city]

They need to put Scott Gottlieb in charge of this recovery. He’s a smart dude

[TLO]

Also - this website is very interesting, but the data/projections has changed wildly from yesterday to today for many states.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/

[eDave]

Originally Posted by TLO

Also - this website is very interesting, but the data/projections has changed wildly from yesterday to today for many states.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/

Expected AZ deaths is lower than last weeks projection. Says there is no stay at home order. There is as of today.

[neech]

Originally Posted by BWillie

If we all wore a mask in public...we probably wouldn't even need to really shelter in place...

You could walk into a bank and not they wouldn’t even go into alarm mode

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Golf courses open in Kansas or Missouri?

Anywhere.

My local course is open.

1) Strictly follow the current CDC guidelines of social distancing.
2) Minimal staffing.
3) Patrons check in without interacting with staff and have no access to the clubhouse facility except for restrooms.
4) Touch areas on the golf carts sanitized before and after use with bleach water in accordance with https://www.cdc.gov/…/20…/prepare/cl...infection.html
5) Golfers ride single in carts.
6) Tee times be set a minimum of 18 minutes apart.
7) Golfers pay by credit card online or by phone with no cash accepted.
8) Course set up eliminates the handling of the flagsticks.
9) No tournaments, leagues, clinics or special events.
10) Range balls/bags/buckets washed and/or disinfected between players.
11) No food or beverage cart service.
12) No water coolers.
13) Routine cleaning of touch surfaces of restrooms.

[oaklandhater]

BREAKING: U.S. coronavirus death toll reaches 3,000 as New York City reports 124 new deaths https://t.co/47MXF0XUJ0

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) March 30, 2020

[PAChiefsGuy]

More than 500 deaths from the CoronaVirus in USA today. Most since the outbreak.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by eDave

Expected AZ deaths is lower than last weeks projection. Says there is no stay at home order. There is as of today.

Yeah when I was looking at it this afternoon, It claimed one dead in Montana, when in fact, it was reported this morning the number was four. Evidently they were off by 75%, of there was some kind of miraculous resurrection.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah when I was looking at it this afternoon, It claimed one dead in Montana, when in fact, it was reported this morning the number was four. Evidently they were off by 75%, of there was some kind of miraculous resurrection.

Nothing is accurate. Sucks.

[KS Smitty]

Kansas results are reported at 8 am which means that those totals are from the day before.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

https://m.startribune.com/u-mayo-rea...ota/569233992/

Someone will have to post the article for me...