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03-07-2024, 07:55 AM | #13861 | |
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I have nothing against TSLY and similar investment funds, I just don't really understand them and the risk. Buying stocks, options, shorting stocks all make sense in terms of what could go wrong that would cause one to lose a lot of money. I Have no idea on what scenario would result in TSLY completely tanking? Does the fund manager basically bet on the stock going one direction and if it goes the other direction that would be worst case scenario? |
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03-07-2024, 08:35 AM | #13862 | |
Fish are scared of me
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Tesla has been down for quite some time, but seeing it's the largest EV maker in the world and involved in so many other avenues for revenue it's got a bright future. 5 years from now it will be booming as it's still in the growth stage |
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03-07-2024, 11:13 AM | #13863 | |
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03-07-2024, 11:36 AM | #13864 |
Kind of a mod
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From the looks of it, they also sometimes dive into water that's 3' deep and then brag about how great the food is at the hospital.
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03-07-2024, 12:05 PM | #13865 | |
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Location: Scott City KS
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Still better in something like JEPQ over the intermediate-long term, but it's not always self-destructive in all cases. EDIT: Link to test |
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03-07-2024, 01:10 PM | #13866 | |
Fish are scared of me
Join Date: Nov 2001
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If I had it all to do over again I would not have bought TSLY, I would have bought NVDY or CONY but like all stocks hindsight is 20/20. Like lewdog says , TSLY has been a dog but he only points out the negative. I will not lose ANY money investing in TSLY, but it will take longer to pay out than I hoped. TSLY was the first fund YM came out with. Now they have about 20 different options. And yes , as long as TSLA grows, TSLY will increase in share price as well as dividend. And to Daface's comment, hospital food isn't so bad once you get accustomed to it . |
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03-07-2024, 01:21 PM | #13867 | |
Fish are scared of me
Join Date: Nov 2001
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I plugged in NVDY and holy crap, then I plugged in Cony and that didn't make sense. CONY has blown the doors off since inception but it's showing a negative value. Thanks for that, I'll be tooling around with it tonight |
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03-10-2024, 07:05 AM | #13868 | |
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Location: Valley of the hot as ****
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TSLY seems to have the same downside risk as TSLA but lacks the growth potential during bulls to match the returns you’d have by actually just owning TSLA. Again, total returns! https://seekingalpha.com/article/466...ar-performance |
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03-12-2024, 05:09 PM | #13869 |
Fish are scared of me
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Interview with the Yieldmax fund manager that's really good. He gives explanation to both sides. Rainman and Lewdog should enjoy in particular, since ones a hater and ones a lover of dividends.
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03-12-2024, 05:43 PM | #13870 | |
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thats not totally true as long as the total return is higher ( taxes you pay on the dividends included, compared to long term capital gains of growth capture).. then even if the price drops, a high yield dividend stock can make sense.. but whats more concerning for some companies is the stability and risk of the dividend payment itself https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/TSLY/dividends/history Some companies have a proven track record of maintaining their dividend payment and even growing the dividend yield. This one (TSLY) looks really high right now but how long can they keep going like this? For income / dividend ETF I kind of like QQQX and QYLD. Maybe not as bold as TSLY but also less risky... |
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03-12-2024, 05:47 PM | #13871 |
NFL's #1 Ermines Fan
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My purchase of NVDA stock is going to get an entire chapter in my autobiography. I'm up over 1,200 percent over the past three years or so.
Last edited by Rain Man; 03-12-2024 at 09:12 PM.. Reason: Original post came across as boastful. |
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03-12-2024, 07:30 PM | #13872 |
Itinerant degenerate.
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Caretaker, Overlook Hotel
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Pardon my ignorance please.
I have 3,000 dollars in savings that I’d like to invest. I have never invested in my life but I’d like to get started. I’m not looking for anything to risky, just slow and steady growth. Where do I begin? Help me Chiefsplanet!!! |
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03-12-2024, 07:35 PM | #13873 | |
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1500 VOO 1500 VUG If you've never invested anything this is what I'd do. |
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03-12-2024, 10:11 PM | #13874 |
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03-12-2024, 10:21 PM | #13875 | |
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A million questions should probably be asked, but if a guy has nothing at all I’d be hard pressed to find a better positioned investment. Logic would dictate that if he thought he would need access to the money he would have mentioned it. |
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