***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chiefs4TheWin]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Update: I've tested negative, but have been told to continue to act as if infected due to there being a lot of false negative tests, that my symptoms have not subsided and we're a week in.

I'm ready for this shit to be over.

I been waiting to hear an update. Glad all is steady and not worse. Get well soon!

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by DRM08

19,452 for March 28th.

Almost 20k... Wow..

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Thanks guys. Just frustrated. I'm not improving, but not getting worse either - and the treatment won't change unless it gets worse.

I'm tired of feeling like shit.

That sucks, but it will pass.

Take care of yourself.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Jesus I cant do another 5 days of this.

See if you can find a home pulse oximeter at Walgreens or CVS. If you get below 92, call an ambulance.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

I’m glad we are tracking lower on average trend - but still sucks.

We’re tracking about two days behind if you blend the last two days then today’s number was only 6 off.

I’m actually revising the percentages of each group by day and comparing against the eventual actual deaths that can be extrapolated by day and group. We’ll be over 1,000 deaths middle of next week based on what I’m seeing. Don’t really want to update this (what’s the point) but if we are able to stay under the ventilator limits I’d guess we are now at a rate just slightly higher than 11%. If we run out of ventilators that number will edge into Italy territory (around 20% dying).

Again, caveat is that high number is not reflective of the actual death rate, just the rate of reported cases that die.

Still believe the asymptomatic and unreported cases that are mild and never get hospitalized are 50% to 90% of the total cases depending on who you listen to.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

THE Covid video you should watch. Really well done.

That was great. Thanks for sharing.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Jesus I cant do another 5 days of this.

Yes you can.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by petegz28

What about those who started locking down almost 1-2 weeks ago?

Italy went on a pretty harsh lockdown 3 weeks ago. Their numbers stablized last weekend before ticking up a bit throughout the week. They're now bouncing up against the ceiling of the highest numbers and while they're not going up markedly, they're not going down either.

Italy just extended their lockdown for two more weeks. In Lombardi they're seizing your car if you're out without your papers allowing travel or your papers don't permit travel when you're stopped. There are road blocks and checkpoints throughout the area.

[Titty Meat]

Any possibility OTW has Influenza A?

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Didn’t the Spanish flu mutate into a deadlier form?

It appears that it did. It is unlikely for a deadlier mutation to get a foothold, but not impossible.

One theory I read, and just a theory mind you, the Men of WWI were packed in the trenches like sardines.

Even though the disease was relatively deadly and could kill quickly, it could spread so quickly in the trenches the mutation didn't slow it down. This may have been the deadlier version that the returning war veterans spread all over the world.

[oaklandhater]

https://m.sfgate.com/coronavirus/art...e-15164242.php

81k death by aug 2020.

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by Donger

And that's the creepy part for me. It always has been. Viruses aren't technically alive. Nor intelligent. So, what is that? Innate self-preservation without life and intelligence?

It's just natural selection. A virus strain that kills or incapacitates its host is less able to spread than a strain that doesn't, and therefore is less represented in subsequent generations.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

THE Covid video you should watch. Really well done.

Endorsed.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by scho63

The Dems in Cali probably made up this shit like catching crabs from a toilet seat to keep the pressure on the economy and Trump.

Really? Your not trolling?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Really? Your not trolling?

He's dumb AF.