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Shooting at the parade
Friendly mod reminder, this thread is about yesterday's shooting. Not about gun control, gun laws, politics, or anything of that nature. If you need everyone to know what's wrong in this world and how you'd fix it, grab your megaphone and soapbox and take it to DC, thanks. Last edited by DaFace; 02-16-2024 at 02:59 PM.. |
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02-16-2024, 11:09 AM | #1306 |
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02-16-2024, 11:21 AM | #1307 |
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I'm not going to get too butt hurt over that cartoon.
I certainly wouldn't have published it, but I have no way of defending the shit hole that the east side has become and it's hard to argue that that shit hole in particular isn't affecting the whole city. This conflict just happened to raise its ugly head at a high profile event that people actually cared about and during a time when a lot of city officials are trying to jam a new ballpark into an area many fans have concerns about. They didn't give a shit when they swept the 100+ bad actions under the KC rug last year. Most of them just rolled the counter back to 0 and tried to ignore it. Maybe the event, and perhaps even the cartoon, will lead to someone actually attempting to correct the real issues that have been allowing the east side to smear shit all over the walls of KC for far too long, but I doubt it. |
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02-16-2024, 11:24 AM | #1308 |
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Pretty sure Columbine, Boulder, and Aurora are all just outside of Denver. They of all people shouldn't be making fun of public shootings.
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02-16-2024, 11:24 AM | #1309 |
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02-16-2024, 11:31 AM | #1310 |
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Yikes. That's gross. (The cartoon, not Taylor's donation. )
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02-16-2024, 11:31 AM | #1311 | |
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02-16-2024, 11:32 AM | #1312 |
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02-16-2024, 11:46 AM | #1313 | |
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KC has some work to do. There was a shooting earlier a few blocks away as well I guess, the police Chief said they didn't know if it was related. Damn. |
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02-16-2024, 11:58 AM | #1314 |
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You see rainman when we bash Denver it’s very well deserved
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02-16-2024, 12:00 PM | #1315 |
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I was just reading where Patrick and Brittany visited the Reyes girls yesterday.
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02-16-2024, 12:16 PM | #1316 |
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02-16-2024, 12:20 PM | #1318 |
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02-16-2024, 12:23 PM | #1320 |
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So I will take a little time to explain how this looks as someone who carries, and has a little bit of training and experience. This is a nightmare scenario for someone carrying, for law enforcement, for bodyguards, for security of any kind. Let’s look at it from a carry perspective.
You are there, most likely with family, and/or friends. Your number one priority is keeping them safe, and getting them out of the immediate vicinity of danger presents. With a million people crammed into a few block area, there is really no way to get out if things start happening close to you. In a heartbeat you need to figure out where the threat is, where you need to go to get away, grab your people up and go. Or do you make them leave and you try to stop the immediate threat. Let’s say you go for the threat. You now have to battle against all the people who are running in every direction and in panic. Panicking people are not rational, they will knock you down, then you will be stomped by the crowd. You then need to realize, you have to open lane to engage the threat. No lane between the two of you, no clear lane around the target, nothing open behind the target. Innocent people running everywhere. You can’t engage, you are now running forward making yourself a bigger target with each step closer. Let’s look at it from the point of leaving. You see the threat, you get your group going the opposite direction. You do everything you can to protect yourself and them. Any training you receive that is worth a dime, will teach you protect yourself and your family. Everyone else is on their own, sounds harsh, but it’s the best way to protect yourself. You have no obligation to protect others in these moments, odds will favor things getting worse if you intervene. If you are not the target, you get out. So you leave, now people who are ignorant say, “Where is the good guy with a gun?” You don’t intervene in one of the most dangerous situations possible, it confirms their bias, you intervene and it goes bad, confirms their bias. Also can put you in prison, or you have to live with a terrible tragedy that you brought on. With the amount of things that can go wrong, the risk is not worth it. The odds of you making it way worse is so much higher than improving things. |
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