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Old 01-10-2019, 03:23 AM  
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****The Official 2019 STL Cardinals Thread****
Cardinals announce 25-man Opening Day roster for the 2019 season.
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2019 Opening Day Line up
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Won the Central Division. Won the NLDS.

NLDS Playoff roster
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NLDS Playoff Game 1 starting lineup
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NLCS Game One Starting lineup
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Old 07-27-2019, 09:33 AM   #1291
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Mother****ing DishNetwork and FSN are in a goddamn dispute so I have lost my FSMW channel.

I am about to lose my ****ing shit.

It’s aggravating that’s for sure...glad the Chiefs are now in training camp.
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Old 07-27-2019, 12:23 PM   #1292
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Haven’t really been following baseball that close this year(Royals are tanking) but was pleasantly surprised to see you guys in first. Congrats!
they have been playing uninspired mediocre baseball for most of the year. 6th highest payroll in baseball filled with overpaid, underperforming veterans. At least for the last 15 games they have been playing great in an average division. Got the Astros, Cubs, Dodgers and A’s coming up. We will find out soon if this was a mirage or a real deal turn around.
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Old 07-27-2019, 12:34 PM   #1293
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Ya I just can't see why on earth they are holding on to him. He's 30 years old and just look around at this market right now. There is no one even close to Merrifield on the market and even the guys that are on the market they are all rentals. Moving forward there are guys that are free agents that teams could reasonably say if I cant get Merrifield for x amount then I'll just give this guy some cash and move on or more guys that are starting to enter into their final years on their contracts that would overlap with a Merrifield and thats all assuming he continues to be a 5+ WAR player.

Nice dumb take
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Old 07-27-2019, 01:20 PM   #1294
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Nice dumb take
Spoken like a Royals fan who doesnt want to see the player who he just bought a jersey for traded no matter how meaningless his future is to the teams chances of competing down the line.

It's the equivalent to the Cubs when they held onto Castro in the middle of their intentionally tanking years. Only it actually made a little bit of sense for the Cubs to hang on to Castro given his age up until the point when they traded for Russell when they already had Baez in the minors. Castro had 1 bad year and bounced back and they should have traded him right then because you knew where the future lied. Instead they held onto him for another year and he crashed again and they wound up with ****ing Adam Warren who they traded back to the same team they got him from 7 months later because he was terrible.
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Old 07-27-2019, 03:49 PM   #1295
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they have been playing uninspired mediocre baseball for most of the year. 6th highest payroll in baseball filled with overpaid, underperforming veterans. At least for the last 15 games they have been playing great in an average division. Got the Astros, Cubs, Dodgers and A’s coming up. We will find out soon if this was a mirage or a real deal turn around.
Better to be in first than doing what my Pirates are doing.
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:21 PM   #1296
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Spoken like a Royals fan who doesnt want to see the player who he just bought a jersey for traded no matter how meaningless his future is to the teams chances of competing down the line.

It's the equivalent to the Cubs when they held onto Castro in the middle of their intentionally tanking years. Only it actually made a little bit of sense for the Cubs to hang on to Castro given his age up until the point when they traded for Russell when they already had Baez in the minors. Castro had 1 bad year and bounced back and they should have traded him right then because you knew where the future lied. Instead they held onto him for another year and he crashed again and they wound up with ****ing Adam Warren who they traded back to the same team they got him from 7 months later because he was terrible.

It’s not about sentiment. It’s about the value you’re receiving back.

If the best they’re getting offers for is a package that doesn’t even have a single top 100 guy in it, there’s no point in trading him 4.5 years out.

With that amount of control, you can wait the market out a little bit, at least to the offseason.

And if the returns remain marginal, there’s just not much point. If you’re moving him for scratchers tickets, you can do that at any point moving forward.
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:54 PM   #1297
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It’s not about sentiment. It’s about the value you’re receiving back.

If the best they’re getting offers for is a package that doesn’t even have a single top 100 guy in it, there’s no point in trading him 4.5 years out.

With that amount of control, you can wait the market out a little bit, at least to the offseason.

And if the returns remain marginal, there’s just not much point. If you’re moving him for scratchers tickets, you can do that at any point moving forward.
And how is anyone ever suppose to get into negotiations for a player when the asking price is so astronomical and public that you might as well hang a banner saying "I'm not selling!!"
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Old 07-27-2019, 06:06 PM   #1298
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Old 07-27-2019, 06:07 PM   #1299
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And how is anyone ever suppose to get into negotiations for a player when the asking price is so astronomical and public that you might as well hang a banner saying "I'm not selling!!"
5 WAR players under super cheap contracts are incredibly ****ing valuable.
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5 WAR players under super cheap contracts are incredibly ****ing valuable.
Super cheap and four more years...
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5 WAR players under super cheap contracts are incredibly ****ing valuable.
Of course, but age is against this particular player especially considering he is a speed guy and no one is going to give up 3 MLB ready prospects/players for him. You arent building a team around Whit Merrifield.
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Of course, but age is against this particular player especially considering he is a speed guy and no one is going to give up 3 MLB ready prospects/players for him. You arent building a team around Whit Merrifield.
Look at what the Indians gave up for Brad Hand and Andrew Miller, neither of whom you'd build a team around.
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Look at what the Indians gave up for Brad Hand and Andrew Miller, neither of whom you'd build a team around.
Indians gave up 1 guy for Hand didn't they and there was also another very good reliever in that trade headed to Cleveland. Granted who they gave up was one of the best prospects in the game but he was also a catcher who had questions about if he had enough contact in his swing to stick.

And there's always been a premium put on pitching, especially left handed pitching.
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