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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 05-18-2022, 03:30 PM   #12886
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Following up Walmart's poor report. whatever Target said at earnings must have been awful. Down 25%. Took everything with it. Costco hasn't reported yet and got pulled down 12.5% today. That's a hell of a reset of expectations for companies of that quality. So much for your consumer staple blue bloods being "defensive", geez.
Between inflation and this insane labor market where we pay people 20-30% more than what a job is worth, these companies are being "squeezed" by their normal standards as the cost of doing business is through the roof on all sides. No way to control costs. Many companies have high valuations still, so we are finally seeing these blue chips being brought down to match the rest of the market.
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Old 05-18-2022, 03:52 PM   #12887
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Old 05-18-2022, 06:16 PM   #12888
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I've been trying to get a load of river rock in from Colorado for 2 weeks and the normal rate has been $1250 and now they want $1700. For trucking.
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Old 05-18-2022, 06:26 PM   #12889
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I've been trying to get a load of river rock in from Colorado for 2 weeks and the normal rate has been $1250 and now they want $1700. For trucking.
If you are willing to pay enough, I can get it to you quickly from Colorado by running interference in a screaming chicken trans-am while my partner breaks trucking laws related time and mileage. For the right price, we might even follow up with an encore a few years later, but it really won’t be as good as the first one.
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Old 05-18-2022, 06:46 PM   #12890
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Between inflation and this insane labor market where we pay people 20-30% more than what a job is worth, these companies are being "squeezed" by their normal standards as the cost of doing business is through the roof on all sides. No way to control costs. Many companies have high valuations still, so we are finally seeing these blue chips being brought down to match the rest of the market.
20-30% is a bit optimistic. 50-100% is more in line. Here anyway.

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I've been trying to get a load of river rock in from Colorado for 2 weeks and the normal rate has been $1250 and now they want $1700. For trucking.
Take it. Before they figure out they’re underpriced.
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Old 05-18-2022, 06:58 PM   #12891
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20-30% is a bit optimistic. 50-100% is more in line. Here anyway.



Take it. Before they figure out they’re underpriced.
I think they're gouging.
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Old 05-18-2022, 08:43 PM   #12892
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If you are willing to pay enough, I can get it to you quickly from Colorado by running interference in a screaming chicken trans-am while my partner breaks trucking laws related time and mileage. For the right price, we might even follow up with an encore a few years later, but it really won’t be as good as the first one.
I can drive the truck as long as I can bring my Bassett Hound along.
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Old 05-18-2022, 10:06 PM   #12893
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I think they're gouging.
It's not going to get cheaper any time soon.

Their rate hike is actually lower than several in my area.
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Old 05-18-2022, 10:10 PM   #12894
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I think they're gouging.
Diesel is like $5.50, fool.
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Old 05-18-2022, 10:17 PM   #12895
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Today was very interesting. Volume was much lighter for the type of sell off we saw and the adv volume vs. dec volume was much better than the other day when we had a similar sell off.
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Old 05-19-2022, 10:52 AM   #12896
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In 2008 it was $800 to get a load from Fort Smith. Diesel went from $2.50 to $4.00. The rate went from $800 to $1200. Diesel came back down to $2.50 and the rate stayed at $1200.
Now it's happened again. When the fuel price comes back down the rate will stay jacked.
Truckers are hard to come by right now as well, probably contributes to the cost. I don't see that getting much better
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Truckers are hard to come by right now as well, probably contributes to the cost. I don't see that getting much better
$95k to truck for Walmart and they’ll train you to get your CDL.
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Old 05-19-2022, 01:48 PM   #12898
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Well, it's a 300 mile trip to get the rock here. At 5MPG that's 60 gallons. If fuel is $2.50 more than last year that's $150 cost increase and they've raised the rate $500

Yes, they're taking advantage and gouging. They did the same thing back in 2008. Truckers can suck my dick!
If it's 300 miles one way, they have the trip back.

That's 300.

Tires are reeruned if you can even get them.

And they probably have to pay the driver more than they did the prior year.

If they're gouging you it's not by a ton.
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Old 05-19-2022, 01:50 PM   #12899
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Oh, and if they're running a semi, those ****ers have about doubled, so the machine cost allocation is far higher.
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Old 05-20-2022, 09:23 AM   #12900
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For those who want to dip their toes into options, I strongly recommend looking at the Ford (F) June 2023 calls, one year out. They are very cheap and Ford at $12-$13 is a great value.

Low risk with nice upside.

The June 16, 2023 calls for $20 strike are around $53 a contract.

Buying 10 will cost you $530 and I see a 3-4x upside.
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