***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[wazu]

Originally Posted by notorious

So I stated a few posts down.

She didn't give a solid answer until the reporter forced her to.

This basically changes nothing.

Are you sure? When KC did this it essentially directed all non-essential businesses to close. I think they can refuse to without any real punishment, but the social pressure seems to accomplish the goal for these "shelter in place" orders. Might be different for whatever your job is.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

It is because of mother ****ers that will not stay home that have caused the governors to have to react strongly . They are the reason that this shit is not under control to behind us all by this point.

I agree.

I am not going to fault someone for catching it getting food or trying to earn, but the party part pissed me off.

I hope that guy gets exactly what he deserves.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Independence has some of the best drinking water in America. It comes from deep limestone wells and is NOT Missouri River water. If you've ever been somewhere that the tap water reeks, you appreciate quality tap water.

Opposite here. My city buys water from MPLS/Mississippi river. It is well treated and is very good. Plymouth, MN is underground water from limestone areas. They can't get enough lime out. It coats cars and leaves deposits on sinks. Everyone in Plymouth needs a softener. Very hard water.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by notorious

It's only a guideline. No criminal charges.

Thank goodness. This is still the US after all.

It's kinda silly bro.

You can still drive wherever you want to drive. They're not pulling people over.

Public group gatherings are going to be broken up though.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Independence has some of the best drinking water in America. It comes from deep limestone wells and is NOT Missouri River water. If you've ever been somewhere that the tap water reeks, you appreciate quality tap water.

http://www.ci.independence.mo.us/Water/WaterQuality

Oh boy here comes George with his Independence patriotism again.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Independence has some of the best drinking water in America. It comes from deep limestone wells and is NOT Missouri River water. If you've ever been somewhere that the tap water reeks, you appreciate quality tap water.

KC is rated as some of the best drinking water in the country. Those wells all around Independence are near banks of the Missouri River near Sugar Creek. One thing the well and pipe intake to rivers have in common they all get pumped to a purification plant to make it potable.

[Hammock Parties]

Man quarantined in home after returning from overseas runs nude, bites elderly woman to death in TN: Police

— Press Trust of India (@PTI_News) March 28, 2020

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Independence has some of the best drinking water in America. It comes from deep limestone wells and is NOT Missouri River water. If you've ever been somewhere that the tap water reeks, you appreciate quality tap water.

http://www.ci.independence.mo.us/Water/WaterQuality

This is correct.. has been that way for years..

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

It's kinda silly bro.



You can still drive wherever you want to drive. They're not pulling people over.



Public group gatherings are going to be broken up though.

It's mainly just shutting down businesses, so there won't be any places people want to go.

[srvy]

The reason Municipalies drill into water table over river intake pipes is the source may not be near within there boundaries also in times of drought river intakes are in jeopardy to low water cutting off supply. Tree huggers don't seem to like drilling into water table also

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

See you just couldn't let it go. You had to continue on. This isn't about me, When its happened with multiple people, its about you.

How many people have you beefed with in this thread for PAGES? You are the one that needs to chill and stop attacking everyone who's not buying your everything is rainbows schtick.

If It’s not about you why are you making it about you? You are clogging this thread about arguing with him about him not arguing with others.

You aren’t a mod. Leave that to us.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's mainly just shutting down businesses, so there won't be any places people want to go.

Yep.

Businesses with physical locations are advised to shut down.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We have an issue down here with the sewers built in 1920 leaking, When we get storms or long lasting rain events, they dump water that may have been contaminated into the gulf, Spending $300 million to fix it, hasn't happened in a couple of years now.

Here’s another one made to be about you.

No one gives a **** right now about this.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No I didn't. I asked if all he does is post bad news because that's all I see him doing and suggested he take a break from it because he is clearly very emotional about it.

As far as you, you are nothing more than a shining beacon of projection. And I don't need you try and explain some set of rules to me either.

No one cares about this either. Take it somewhere else.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by srvy

You are an idiot who likes to post shit you have no idea about. Lees Summit buys its water from KCMO which comes from the Missouri River. Longview Lake is a Corps of Engineer Flood control Reservoir.

Just quit posting shit you don't know.

And whoever thumbs downed this post is dumb