***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

I wouldn’t really worry about the case numbers. As testing increases case numbers will

It’s been exponentially spreading for a few months.

The difference in recovery numbers was more of what I was referring too. There is a significant difference between the two.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I wish there were some consistency between Johns Hopkins and Worldometer

Worldometer shows more total cases and more total deaths by a few but their recovered number is almost 3 times of that of Johns Hopkins

The John Hopkins site is pretty much worthless since they decided to go from a single "dot" per state to trying to show every nuance of every county. Their site also shows zero people recovered in the United States, no matter what county you click on, but somehow does report a very low total for the U.S. as a whole in the "recovered" column. Just not sure what value that site provides at this point.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The difference in recovery numbers was more of what I was referring too. There is a significant difference between the two.

Difference for sure

But again, there’s so many unaccounted for cases it’s just not really an accurate number

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The difference in recovery numbers was more of what I was referring too. There is a significant difference between the two.

I don’t know how they are tracking recovered patients. Do they have to test negative, or just be asymptotic for x amount of days or are they going even bothering counting them .

[O.city]

They’re rolling out a vaccine trial from oxford university that uses an adenovirus vector that they’re inserting the spike material genetic material into.

It’s got some interesting potential seeing as we can skip a lot of steps since we know it’s already proven to be safe

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Difference for sure

But again, there’s so many unaccounted for cases it’s just not really an accurate number

I am going to have to disagree to a point. I agree there are a ton of cases unaccounted for but the number should be accurate in that it is reflective of the cases that have been counted. so overall yeah the number is meaningless but based on the cases we do know about I would hope it is accurate or close.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by O.city

They’re rolling out a vaccine trial from oxford university that uses an adenovirus vector that they’re inserting the spike material genetic material into.

It’s got some interesting potential seeing as we can skip a lot of steps since we know it’s already proven to be safe

Very interesting. Any word on how much time those skipped steps save?

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I am going to have to disagree to a point. I agree there are a ton of cases unaccounted for but the number should be accurate in that it is reflective of the cases that have been counted. so overall yeah the number is meaningless but based on the cases we do know about I would hope it is accurate or close.

If it is accurate the one thing I find interesting about the recovery numbers is how long it takes to recover. I know a lot of these people have to be feeling better sooner, but the amount of time it takes to test negative seems crazy long. Then again, the one time I had pneumonia I was sick for weeks and was feeling it for months.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Dont a lot of communities get their water from lakes with fish in them? I know Lees Summit in the KC area gets its water from Longview lake that has fish in it.

You are an idiot who likes to post shit you have no idea about. Lees Summit buys its water from KCMO which comes from the Missouri River. Longview Lake is a Corps of Engineer Flood control Reservoir.

Just quit posting shit you don't know.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by O.city

They’re rolling out a vaccine trial from oxford university that uses an adenovirus vector that they’re inserting the spike material genetic material into.

It’s got some interesting potential seeing as we can skip a lot of steps since we know it’s already proven to be safe

That's cool and creative. Lets hope it works!

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Very interesting. Any word on how much time those skipped steps save?

It’ll cut out some time since we aren’t starting from scratch. But it won’t be anytime in the immediate future. The issue with vaccines is you want an immune response strong enough to trigger a response, but not too strong that it could kill you.

If it’s not strong enough to get a full response you have issues in that you only get partial responses that can actually make the true infection worse

It’s a balancing act. Luckily we have a lot of research and situations where we’ve developed things similar so like I said we aren’t starting from scratch.

If it gets to phase III in the trial, is start to get excited and I’d imagine we’re maybe....6 months from that best case scenario? I don’t know

[srvy]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I'm good. If I see you in person we can handle this like men instead of trading insults on a message board. Have a good day.

We got us a Billy Badass.

[burt]

No...I'm pretty sure that's Billy JACK...

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by srvy

You are an idiot who likes to post shit you have no idea about. Lees Summit buys its water from KCMO which comes from the Missouri River. Longview Lake is a Corps of Engineer Flood control Reservoir.

Just quit posting shit you don't know.

Ha! Water from Longview Lake? I thought BRC knew everything?

Lee's Summit actually buys water from both KC and Independence.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by burt

No...I'm pretty sure that's Billy JACK...

No its Tom Laughlin who I think is PAChief.