***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

I mean for ****'s sake, CA had literally 1/10 of the new cases NY did and <1/10 of new deaths.

[eDave]

All the money raised will go to the AFEM COVID-19 Hardship Fund to benefit at-risk workers, and the WHO's COVID-19 Solidarity Response Fund.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't want this lock down shit. I don't. I don't like it. I think it's wrong and in the long run is worse than a virus. That being said, if the rest of the country is on a level half of or even more less than half of NY you seriously have to start looking at banning travel in and out of NY.

I don't want to say that but it's ****ing true. This isn't a nursing home situation like WA state was. If they won't distance and stay home then sorry but you can **** each other and not everyone else.

It's tough cause of their living conditions, I get it. But when they are responsible for literally half the pain the other 49 states are feeling then WTF?

New Orleans is in a similar spot as New York

I’m guessing it may hit here more in mid April

[carlos3652]

Sorry I’ve been away, good quality posting. I was temporarily laid off today (along with 200 others) and my friends who are still there took a major temp pay reduction until this passes , so that blows. This damn virus needs to go away.

That being said it looks like Ringleaders numbers were only a couple days behind what he had posted, with the US surpassing 400 deaths today. Italy at almost 1000 is very discouraging. Netherlands popped their 3 digit cherry as well.

Ugh. Hard to post positive news with everything going on.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Sorry I’ve been away, good quality posting. I was temporarily laid off today (along with 200 others) and my friends who are still there took a major temp pay reduction until this passes , so that blows. This damn virus needs to go away.

That being said it looks like Ringleaders numbers were only a couple days behind what he had posted, with the US surpassing 400 deaths today. Italy at almost 1000 is very discouraging. Netherlands popped their 3 digit cherry as well.

Ugh. Hard to post positive news with everything going on.

Spoke to family in N Italy and its on a total lockdown. If you’re out without your papers for the allowed reason they impound your car and you walk home. The numbers have sort of stabilized but the deaths are going to start tracking into the 1000+ territory for awhile in Italy.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

New Orleans is in a similar spot as New York

I’m guessing it may hit here more in mid April

I don't know where "here" is but I don't think you are going to see a repeat of NY anywhere. Even in LA where I know New Orleans is a bit of a hot spot. I have a feeling and it is just a feeling that it will simmer down there before it gets too bad. At least I hope.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't know where "here" is but I don't think you are going to see a repeat of NY anywhere. Even in LA where I know New Orleans is a bit of a hot spot. I have a feeling and it is just a feeling that it will simmer down there before it gets too bad. At least I hope.

Here in the Midwest

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by O.city

I sent him a message haven’t gotten a response yet

It doesn't look like he is very active on FB. His last post was in May 2019.

[petegz28]

This might sound a bit impossible but as tight of a space as NY is, I think they really need to lock the entire NY city area down for 1 week until crews literally lysol every ****ing inch of the place.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Here in the Midwest

I've heard a couple of our doctors say they think it will get worse and a couple saying they think it won't.

So who knows? We are locked down and spread out. Our hospitals are not overrun and that's the part that really counts.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't know where "here" is but I don't think you are going to see a repeat of NY anywhere. Even in LA where I know New Orleans is a bit of a hot spot. I have a feeling and it is just a feeling that it will simmer down there before it gets too bad. At least I hope.

NY didn’t expect to be the next Italy.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

It doesn't look like he is very active on FB. His last post was in May 2019.

I know several people that don't post on FB but are very active. Check messages, look at pics, check out others statuses.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

NY didn’t expect to be the next Italy.

I am not saying they did but they are to an extent. And I am not trying to nitpick but they made their own bed to a large extent when in 2015 they passed on buying respirators and what not. I am all for helping them and doing what it takes to get them better but if that means literally cutting them off from the rest of the world for a week or two then so be it. There is a consequence of living on top of each other the way they do, unfortunately.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't know where "here" is but I don't think you are going to see a repeat of NY anywhere. Even in LA where I know New Orleans is a bit of a hot spot. I have a feeling and it is just a feeling that it will simmer down there before it gets too bad. At least I hope.

Why does this not surprise me? Maybe because you are constantly posting how this isn't very bad. You are like the polar opposite of OH.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Why does this not surprise me? Maybe because you are constantly posting how this isn't very bad. You are like the polar opposite of OH.

Yeah, I am constantly posting that.....