***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Demonpenz]

Well you are at-least where you can see your physical and mental behavior is not where you want it to be. So that is great. Most people just are crazy and can't see it. Start to view the world like a point guard in basketball. Look at stuff become aware of stuff look for the back door cut (jk) You are in no mans land. you can either accept yourself as being crazy and be fine with that and your body becomes at peace with your actions or you can get on the road to make some progress. when you are crazy and you hate being crazy is a bad spot to be in.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by eDave

He killed himself.

but he stopped wrapping himself in a baked potato!

[Demonpenz]

The big thing for me with anxiety was that I am always going to have anxiety around people yelling and being aggressive because I was beat ALOT. So I am good with that. Take my meds. Then be present and accept that you feel the way you feel. There are some small things can make a change but if you could feel awesome all the time you would. So just settle in to your emotions and enjoy life for what it is.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

but he stopped wrapping himself in a baked potato!

that's true...

[SupDock]

NYC data, don't click TLO

Spoiler!

UPDATE: New York City reports 1,124 new cases of coronavirus and 84 new deaths, raising state total to 45,934 cases and 603 dead https://t.co/47MXF0XUJ0

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) March 27, 2020

[Hammock Parties]

309 deaths

[Chief Roundup]

Well just got back from Wal-Mart and Kroger. I was amazed. Things seem to be calming down. There was some toilet paper, wipes and disinfectant cleaners. Most of the canned goods were back on the shelves. There were pallets of water at WalMart and the shelves at Kroger were mostly full.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by SupDock

NYC data, don't click TLO

Spoiler!

UPDATE: New York City reports 1,124 new cases of coronavirus and 84 new deaths, raising state total to 45,934 cases and 603 dead https://t.co/47MXF0XUJ0

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) March 27, 2020

Huh the https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ shows that NY has 5,833 new today with 53 deaths today.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The old folks are being hard-headed as hell about this thing.

My grandparents are in their 80s and my grandpa is just a walking disaster - damn near every part of him is broken in some way. They have spent the last week insisting that they're gonna come back to KC from their little snowbird cottage in Florida. My mom and I have been arguing with them to just !@#$ing stay put.

Yesterday they finally relented and said they'd stay there. There's just no sense at all in exposing yourself to more people. I mean on one hand, florida is probably going to get hit harder and with their population of elderly there may be a greater chance of capacity issues in their hospitals. But driving 16 hours over a couple of days to get yourself back to Kansas City isn't smart either - that's just more time out in the public.

Ultimately had they come up with a better reason, I suspect I'd have been more inclined to listen. But they just wanted to get back and open their house back up and get to a couple of doctors appointments they'd had scheduled. Just being stubborn old goats.

your theory may be correct. Since we do have an elderly population, it’s a good assumption that if he dies go south, wherever they bring him in will probably do a better job than the Missouri hospitals just basing it on more experience with that age bracket. You need me to look in on the old man, PM me.

Originally Posted by TLO

They've been out to sea since early March. Apparently they thought they were all safe on board? Idk.

they still have to take in supplies st ports. There were workers at those ports that were positive. They take on new workers at those ports. Every cruise needs to be docked.

Originally Posted by eDave

My dad is over the top scared. He's like 82 or something like that.

Asshole brother was talking about inheritance the other day.

my brother-in-law did something similar. The elderly parent had an account with 300K in it. He was worried about a collapse and she’d lose the $50K. Talked to her and now she’s freaking out about a collapse. Wants to start giving us money settling the estate etc. I was really pissed. Neither him or us are in financial woes. He should never have talked to her about that shit. I don’t want her money while she is alive. I think it makes her feel better to have a financial cushion. She grew up literally dirt poor.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by TLO

I kept track today.

I've taken my temperature 54 times. I worked for 4 hours in office today too.

Good Lord I'm insane.

Gonna spend the evening trying to relax, and look up some mindfulness and meditation later tonight or tomorrow

At this point you should just get a wireless grill thermometer and stick it in your ass so you can easily see your temp anytime you want to.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by TLO

I kept track today.

I've taken my temperature 54 times. I worked for 4 hours in office today too.

Good Lord I'm insane.

Gonna spend the evening trying to relax, and look up some mindfulness and meditation later tonight or tomorrow

How the **** with a name and avatar like that do you not have some game that you can get lost in for a few hours and unwind?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Huh the https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ shows that NY has 5,833 new today with 53 deaths today.

Those are not real time numbers.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by penguinz

At this point you should just get a wireless grill thermometer and stick it in your ass so you can easily see your temp anytime you want to.

This made me laugh pretty damn hard.

Originally Posted by jd1020

How the **** with a name and avatar like that not have some game that you can get lost in for a few hours and unwind?

Because OCD is a ****ing bitch. I'm working on things to distract me.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by TLO

This made me laugh pretty damn hard.

Because OCD is a ****ing bitch. I'm working on things to distract me.

I think sinking yourself into a game is great advice. I'll gift you whatever you want to immerse yourself into.

[FloridaMan88]

Here is one thing I hope we keep as a society after the pandemic ends... the focused attention on personal space.

It's kind of nice to be in line at a store and not have the person behind you literally on your ass.