***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

NY is skewing the curve man....WTF? Millions of people paying outrageously high prices to live in incredibly small, shit box apartments, crammed in on top of each other like a ****ing giant ant farm.....


And they say us in flyover country don't know what we're missing???

[Hammock Parties]

US passed 500,000 test mark today

https://covidtracking.com/us-daily/

The US processed 101,000 tests today. Of which 83,000 were negative.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

What exactly is there to cooperate with?

Unless Montana starts closing down public parks and trails, life will proceed as normal for most.

IDK where you are BRC, but here in San Diego, at least for me, life doesn't seem much different. We can't go to the beach or to public parks as of a few days ago.

But beyond that there's very little changed unless you're a bar-hoping socialite.

Tampa and our Mayor are taking it pretty seriously. As much as you can lock up parks etc. they are doing it

#SaferAtHome@StPeteParksRec are taking the safer at home directive seriously by barricading/locking down the City's 79 playgrounds & 11 fitness zones.

The parks are open but we're hoping this will discourage groups from gathering/spreading #COVID19.#StopTheSpread #StayHome pic.twitter.com/a4QmAyYOQS

— St. Pete Police (@StPetePD) March 26, 2020

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

US passed 500,000 test mark today

https://covidtracking.com/us-daily/

The US processed 101,000 tests today. Of which 83,000 were negative.

That's kind of astounding.

[JakeLV]

Originally Posted by Bowser

That is both nuts and horrifying on a few different levels.

For us who have been hunkered down for 1.5 weeks, pretty infuriating. Every bit of delay extends how long we’re on lock down

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

US passed 500,000 test mark today

https://covidtracking.com/us-daily/

The US processed 101,000 tests today. Of which 83,000 were negative.

Hey RINGLEADER, can you extrapolate these numbers?

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Tampa and our Mayor are taking it pretty seriously. As much as you can lock up parks etc. they are doing it

#SaferAtHome@StPeteParksRec are taking the safer at home directive seriously by barricading/locking down the City's 79 playgrounds & 11 fitness zones.

The parks are open but we're hoping this will discourage groups from gathering/spreading #COVID19.#StopTheSpread #StayHome pic.twitter.com/a4QmAyYOQS

— St. Pete Police (@StPetePD) March 26, 2020

IndyCar rescheduled st pete race

[oaklandhater]

[ChiefZilla]

stock market had a nice day

[oaklandhater]

Holy shit....

[loochy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Beautiful day in KC area...get out and get some fresh air. Get some sun, or what's left of it for the day. Shitty weather coming back tomorrow so get out and let your body soak in some fresh air.

Absolutely! There's a ton you can do without getting all up in people's grill. If I had a place to lift and I was guaranteed grocery availability I could live like this indefinitely.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Tampa and our Mayor are taking it pretty seriously. As much as you can lock up parks etc. they are doing it

#SaferAtHome@StPeteParksRec are taking the safer at home directive seriously by barricading/locking down the City's 79 playgrounds & 11 fitness zones.

The parks are open but we're hoping this will discourage groups from gathering/spreading #COVID19.#StopTheSpread #StayHome pic.twitter.com/a4QmAyYOQS

— St. Pete Police (@StPetePD) March 26, 2020

That's not a bad idea. Lock up the equipment but keep the wide open spaces available.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by TLO

That's not good.

I'm guessing that a majority of those are in New Orleans.

Well, as we saw in the hurricane, Nawlins has a lot of people that...wouldn't have hygiene high on their list of priorities, combined with bourbon street reerunery.

[cdcox]

We are really in the beginning stages of this. I posted this before, but more people need to read it.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-be9337092b56

It is called the Hammer and the Dance.

The Hammer involves very tight control measures "shelter in place" type restrictions, needed for 3 to 7 weeks. Since this thing got such a hold here, I'm guessing the longer time period will be needed. After that, we can loosen restrictions (the Dance) where some forms of social distancing are still needed (no large crowds, no conferences, no sporting events) but bars and restaurants and schools could open. The point of the dance is to drop R to less than 1. The Dance can't be effective until we are capable of wide scale testing and contact tracing. The Dance is what South Korea was able to do. They skipped the hammer because they got on top of it quickly. The dance is going to have to be maintained until a vaccine is developed. But we can't get to that until we have the cases under control. That will not happen for a number of weeks to come.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by eDave

Montana seems like a place that would be last to do this.

I'm surprise it took this long. The good thing is, a guy can still get out and fish and ATV without dodging the law, which is just as well. I'm not sure if people have figured out that the liquor store are going to be closed yet, but when they do, watch out. I saw this coming a week ago so I stocked up when there was nobody in the stores. Tomorrow is going to be a body wash with people flocking in trying to get the last minute bottle.