Hurricane Milton is a CAT 5 and Coming for Florida

[Otter]

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[wazu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

i guess he got so much blowback yesterday that he changed the policy. Glad to see the peoples anger still moves a politician.

Hope it's not too late. Hate the thought of a bunch of people wanting to evacuate, but not being able to.

[Iowanian]

Good luck down there to the locals. Stay safe.


Sure glad I didn’t book the surprise trip for my wife next week….

[Iowanian]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Outside of Katrina, tornadoes cause more deaths and injuries per year than hurricanes, but that's also because there are a **** ton more tornadoes per year.

As mentioned though, you don't get 3 days' notice on a tornado... yet, it can be coming down your street and at any time you can jump in the basement if needed; compared to a hurricane being 900 ****ing miles wide.

Insurance companies kind of tell the story though in terms of destruction.. they've been pulling out of hurricane states and wild fire states, but AFAIK haven't been as concerned about the midwest and tornadoes.

This is partly true….but insurance companies are pulling out of the Midwest also…..my insurance rates went up over 40% this year and I’ve never had a claim on my property and haven’t had a car claim since the 90s. Doracho, hail, tornadoes…..

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

This is partly true….but insurance companies are pulling out of the Midwest also…..my insurance rates went up over 40% this year and I’ve never had a claim on my property and haven’t had a car claim since the 90s. Doracho, hail, tornadoes…..

I just got my statement - something something about high wind claims

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

its too late to get out within Florida, N0 gas. No hotels in the whole damn state.

Gas is on the governor. Prior governors used police escorts to get the gas to the pumps. Its one if the most crucial items, You cant flee the storm without gas, He decided not to this time and its made things way worse.

Glad you got out of town. Was thinking about you and your wife. Shouldn’t be too bad over here on the Treasure Coast so we are staying put. Glad we have the leadership we do down here with all the prep and transparency. Y’all stay safe!

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

This is partly true….but insurance companies are pulling out of the Midwest also…..my insurance rates went up over 40% this year and I’ve never had a claim on my property and haven’t had a car claim since the 90s. Doracho, hail, tornadoes…..

Yeah. The agent for our local coop is singing the blues. Apparently there are only 2 companies left insuring commercial elevators. And those are big ass policies.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Go take a look at where Tampa's hospital is...

They use a system called an “AquaFence”. And it’s amazing. Don’t understand why this isn’t used in other areas.

* I see BRC touched on it already.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

i guess he got so much blowback yesterday that he changed the policy. Glad to see the peoples anger still moves a politician.

I guess i.missed where the Governor had a policy in effect that made the delivery of gas troublesome.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

They use a system called an “AquaFence”. And it’s amazing. Don’t understand why this isn’t used in other areas.

* I see BRC touched on it already.

I saw a video about that but...isn't it like 6' tall? If they actually get a 15' surge, I'm not sure it's gonna help much. (Granted, I'm not sure how far above water level the hospital itself is, so maybe it'll be OK?)

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Just think of all the golf courses you can play for free right now

The good lord would never disrupt the best game of my life!

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Outside of Katrina, tornadoes cause more deaths and injuries per year than hurricanes, but that's also because there are a **** ton more tornadoes per year.

As mentioned though, you don't get 3 days' notice on a tornado... yet, it can be coming down your street and at any time you can jump in the basement if needed; compared to a hurricane being 900 ****ing miles wide.

Insurance companies kind of tell the story though in terms of destruction.. they've been pulling out of hurricane states and wild fire states, but AFAIK haven't been as concerned about the midwest and tornadoes.

Speaking of insurance companies... North Carolina and Tennessee are pretty much ****ed, because apparently almost none of the flood damage from Helene will be paid by insurance..

Hurricane Helene could cost $200 billion. Nobody knows where the money will come from.
Almost none of the storm's devastation will be paid out by insurance.

In a preliminary damage estimate released on Thursday, the private forecaster AccuWeather pegged the financial cost of Hurricane Helene’s damages at $225 to $250 billion, more than double what it estimated in the first days after the storm made landfall in Florida last week — and far more than recent major hurricanes like 2012’s Sandy and 2017’s Harvey. That massive number includes the cost of rebuilding homes, businesses, roads, and infrastructure in the storm’s path from Florida to Tennessee, as well as the wages and economic output that will be lost during the yearslong rebuild.

Another fact that makes Helene’s devastation so unprecedented is that almost none of those hundreds of billions of dollars in losses will be paid out by insurance. While the storm caused most of its damage through flooding, which is covered under a government-run flood insurance program, very few residents of the southern Appalachian mountains hold flood policies — even those who live in federally designated flood zones. As of now, these storm victims in North Carolina and Tennessee have no guarantee of comprehensive public or private assistance as they try to piece their lives back together. The situation stands in stark contrast to other recent deadly storms like Hurricane Ian in 2022, where wind damage was paid out by standard homeowner’s insurance and flooding was limited to low-lying coastal areas where residents typically hold government flood insurance.

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[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I saw a video about that but...isn't it like 6' tall? If they actually get a 15' surge, I'm not sure it's gonna help much. (Granted, I'm not sure how far above water level the hospital itself is, so maybe it'll be OK?)

I thought theres was 20ft tall?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Fish

Speaking of insurance companies... North Carolina and Tennessee are pretty much ****ed, because apparently almost none of the flood damage from Helene will be paid by insurance..

Hurricane Helene could cost $200 billion. Nobody knows where the money will come from.
Almost none of the storm's devastation will be paid out by insurance.

In a preliminary damage estimate released on Thursday, the private forecaster AccuWeather pegged the financial cost of Hurricane Helene’s damages at $225 to $250 billion, more than double what it estimated in the first days after the storm made landfall in Florida last week — and far more than recent major hurricanes like 2012’s Sandy and 2017’s Harvey. That massive number includes the cost of rebuilding homes, businesses, roads, and infrastructure in the storm’s path from Florida to Tennessee, as well as the wages and economic output that will be lost during the yearslong rebuild.

Another fact that makes Helene’s devastation so unprecedented is that almost none of those hundreds of billions of dollars in losses will be paid out by insurance. While the storm caused most of its damage through flooding, which is covered under a government-run flood insurance program, very few residents of the southern Appalachian mountains hold flood policies — even those who live in federally designated flood zones. As of now, these storm victims in North Carolina and Tennessee have no guarantee of comprehensive public or private assistance as they try to piece their lives back together. The situation stands in stark contrast to other recent deadly storms like Hurricane Ian in 2022, where wind damage was paid out by standard homeowner’s insurance and flooding was limited to low-lying coastal areas where residents typically hold government flood insurance.

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yep, I have to get regular house insurance. Then a wind policy and then also a flood policy. total = $8K+ a year. some of my neighbors got their insurance raised $17K in a single year.

I'm in the state backed insurance. best rates you can get. I got a letter this week that they are kicking me out after only 1 year to a private company.

My house only gets $200k If its wiped off the face of the earth. despite it being worth 4-5X that. supposedly because the land is where the rest of the value lies.

[Chieftain]

I lived in the Tampa area during Hurricane Isaac, which coincided with the republican national convention that very month. I remember street signs flying near my home from 75 mph winds. It was pretty scary as you walked down the street and you had to look over your head. One strike and you were dead. It's not so much the water and the wind that kills you but the debris they carry. And to make matters worse, this area is notorious for extreme lightning activity during the summer months.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

I lived in the Tampa area during Hurricane Isaac, which coincided with the republican national convention that very month. I remember street signs flying near my home from 75 mph winds. It was pretty scary as you walked down the street and you had to look over your head. One strike and you were dead. It's not so much the water and the wind that kills you but the debris they carry. And to make matters worse, this area is notorious for extreme lightning activity during the summer months.

You learn a phrase the first time you deal with a hurricane..... Run from the water, hide from the wind.