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Old 02-27-2019, 02:22 PM  
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Thought this might deserve it's own thread.
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Old 02-27-2019, 03:56 PM   #106
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I can only go with the facts. Eric played three games towards the end of the season so clearly his injury wasn't that severe. Now he's apparently been told he doesn't need surgery and Reid said he expects Berry back fully healthy next season. Why not be optimistic about this? Why do we have to spew doom and gloom and be sceptical all the time?
No. He played IN three games towards the end of the year, one game of that for like two or three plays max. He still missed an entire playoff game in between, and looked like a 50 year old Eric Berry in the other. Big difference.

But, if the docs and Berry himself thinks he can go and be who he was, that doesn't hurt us in any way. Hope they're right.
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Old 02-27-2019, 03:58 PM   #107
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Berry needs to restructure if he's going to stay. Absolute necessity at this point.
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Old 02-27-2019, 03:58 PM   #108
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Berry is like the herp.
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Old 02-27-2019, 03:59 PM   #109
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Wtf? How’s he going to come back healthy with no surgery?
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Old 02-27-2019, 03:59 PM   #110
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Berry is like the herp.
He's constantly cokblocking Billay?
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:02 PM   #111
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Great idea! To whom??
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:06 PM   #112
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After a whole season of day-to-day last year with the heel never improving, do you really believe a few months of rest this offseason is all that he needs? He already rested it for 4 months during the season, so... rest it for 4 more, and it'll be right as rain?

He hasn't made a meaningful play since 2016... it's probably time to see the writing on the wall.
Are you saying we should NOT believe the DOCTORS?
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:08 PM   #113
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No. He played IN three games towards the end of the year, one game of that for like two or three plays max. He still missed an entire playoff game in between, and looked like a 50 year old Eric Berry in the other. Big difference.

But, if the docs and Berry himself thinks he can go and be who he was, that doesn't hurt us in any way. Hope they're right.
He hadn't played for over a year and missed most of pre-season training. He was never gonna be back to his best or back to full fitness In the last few weeks of the season.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:08 PM   #114
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Has a team ever gotten less return on their investment for a $70m+ contract?
I would rather give a big contract to a player already on the team who played at a high level and have the contract be a bust because of injuries. Berry and Houston fit that description.

As opposed to a player who got paid and quit (I'm looking at you Bowe) or a player who got a big contract and never performed before or after (Tyson Jackson comes to mind although the rookie cap is different now).

I'm nervous about tying up a big cap hit into Hill. But I would rather pay Hill big bucks and see him go down with an injury than sign some high priced free agent that goes down. As far as the team going forward, it wouldn't make any difference. But Hill is currently grossly underpaid, so I would rather see dead money go to a player that helped KC out than a free agent.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:09 PM   #115
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Are you saying we should NOT believe the DOCTORS?
Please link direct quote from doctors.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:09 PM   #116
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The injury that affected Eric Berry this past season was not directly related to the 2017 Achilles injury... it was his heel in the other foot.
Yes but he was still coming off a major injury, this year he won't be.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:09 PM   #117
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At least when Gronk clowns him again next year, 29 can always get up and fake limp to the sideline.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:09 PM   #118
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Please link direct quote from doctors.
Go and ask Terez Paylor, he just said what the doctors apparently told Berry.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:10 PM   #119
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I would rather give a big contract to a player already on the team who played at a high level and have the contract be a bust because of injuries. Berry and Houston fit that description.

As opposed to a player who got paid and quit (I'm looking at you Bowe) or a player who got a big contract and never performed before or after (Tyson Jackson comes to mind although the rookie cap is different now).

I'm nervous about tying up a big cap hit into Hill. But I would rather pay Hill big bucks and see him go down with an injury than sign some high priced free agent that goes down. As far as the team going forward, it doesn't make any difference. But Hill is grossly underpaid, so I would rather see dead money go to a player that helped KC out than a free agent.
Sure.

But now there's a way to not have to do any of that crap. Now there's a way to acknowledge the sunk costs of Berry's ill-conceived extension and mitigate the remainder of the damage it can do.

It's time to pull the chute on EB.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:12 PM   #120
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Yes but he was still coming off a major injury, this year he won't be.
So an injury that kept Eric Berry out from August until December, and forced him to miss a playoff game is not your definition of a "major injury"?
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