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Old 03-30-2024, 10:44 PM  
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Rashee Rice suspected in connection with major accident in Dallas
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:11 PM   #1171
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It's no laughing matter.

We don't need another Chief dying because he likes to drive fast.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:12 PM   #1172
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Don't lie, Don't say shit.

If one of his buddies wants to step up and take blame, lie, whatever, that's their prerogative.

But Rashee needs to keep his mf'ing mouth shut if he wants to avoid charges.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:12 PM   #1173
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No way. Lie. Lie for longer.
If you don’t get caught, sure.

It sounds like the repercussions here are fairly minor.

Lying and getting caught will make things really bad for him. There’s a lot of people recording stuff at all times anymore. You never know what someone accidentally captured.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:13 PM   #1174
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He and his lawyers better be damn sure there are no cameras on that highway showing him driving that car if he’s going that route then.

And that the other two with him at minimum, maybe even those in the other car, are completely on board and don’t flip. Also, who knows where they got in the car but if it was in a parking lot or some other public space it’s going to be on video. Might even be on video if they got in at Rice’s house.

They will admit he was driving and walked away because he was frightened and wanted to get off a dangerous road to call for help or something like that and decided to seek medical attention for the group.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:14 PM   #1175
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Doesn't the prosecution have to inform them if they have video of Rice getting into the driver's side?
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:16 PM   #1176
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Footage of him getting in the drivers side wouldn’t prove he was driving at the time.

They could have plausibly switched somewhere along the way.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:20 PM   #1177
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Doesn't the prosecution have to inform them if they have video of Rice getting into the driver's side?
Down the line, after they've filed charges, during discovery.

What's going to happen (probably already happening/has happened) is they're back-tracking cameras along the entire journey of the cars from the point of origin.

If they have him getting into the vehicle's driver side, and can draw a straight line of footage without large gaps in time (in which he could have switched seats), then he's in trouble.

If he went through a toll and it took a picture that was stronger than his tinted windows, and it shows him driving, then he's in trouble.

Since no one from his crew spoke to police and lied or gave dumb statements (because they left) and if no one on the road can clearly point to him as the driver (again, his windows are blacked out), then they're going to need a first-hand reliable witness or footage.

He definitely won't be incriminating himself.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:22 PM   #1178
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All this not speaking stuff might fly with the cops, but it won't fly with the Chiefs. They'll expect him to be honest, and they'll have their own investigators figure out what happened.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:23 PM   #1179
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All this not speaking stuff might fly with the cops, but it won't fly with the Chiefs. They'll expect him to be honest, and they'll have their own investigators figure out what happened.
Sure. But they'll handle that in-house.

That said - I doubt they will ask him any questions that they don't want the answers to, because if they get subpoenaed they won't have plausible deniability.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:26 PM   #1180
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He and his lawyers better be damn sure there are no cameras on that highway showing him driving that car if he’s going that route then.
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I think owning up and taking your lumps is the right call.

He’s just asking for new evidence to come out if he lies. Then he’s in real trouble.

If he gets suspended for half the season, so what? We know the regular season doesn’t matter as long as we take the division (which we will barring injury).
Goddam do prosecutors love guys like this.

**** owning up and taking lumps - that's the prosecutor's job. Prove it or piss off.

Why is he "In real trouble" if he lies? He's in the same amount of trouble. There's some small chance that a local prosecutor may get a burr in his ass about being lied to, but that prosecutor's been lied to by 90% of the people he spoke with that day, from Defendants to defense attorneys.

And ol' Roger doesn't care either way. Lie, don't lie - whatever. Just don't get caught. And if you do, he's going to try to nail your ass to a wall either way.

Take your lumps...wow. No. Just hell no, man. If the prosecutor can't prove you committed any crime, why should you do it for him? And if you aren't sure if he can, well that's what disclosures are for. He's gonna have to tell you what he's got.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:29 PM   #1181
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Goddam do prosecutors love guys like this.

**** owning up and taking lumps - that's the prosecutor's job. Prove it or piss off.

Why is he "In real trouble" if he lies? He's in the same amount of trouble. There's some small chance that a local prosecutor may get a burr in his ass about being lied to, but that prosecutor's been lied to by 90% of the people he spoke with that day, from Defendants to defense attorneys.

And ol' Roger doesn't care either way. Lie, don't lie - whatever. Just don't get caught. And if you do, he's going to try to nail your ass to a wall either way.

Take your lumps...wow. No. Just hell no, man. If the prosecutor can't prove you committed any crime, why should you do it for him? And if you aren't sure if he can, well that's what disclosures are for. He's gonna have to tell you what he's got.
So say nothing, don’t lie when you don’t have any idea what they’ve got on you.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:29 PM   #1182
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Sure. But they'll handle that in-house.

That said - I doubt they will ask him any questions that they don't want the answers to, because if they get subpoenaed they won't have plausible deniability.
This is why CP rocks.

Legal bros are going to have fun with this.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:30 PM   #1183
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Down the line, after they've filed charges, during discovery.

What's going to happen (probably already happening/has happened) is they're back-tracking cameras along the entire journey of the cars from the point of origin.

If they have him getting into the vehicle's driver side, and can draw a straight line of footage without large gaps in time (in which he could have switched seats), then he's in trouble.

If he went through a toll and it took a picture that was stronger than his tinted windows, and it shows him driving, then he's in trouble.

Since no one from his crew spoke to police and lied or gave dumb statements (because they left) and if no one on the road can clearly point to him as the driver (again, his windows are blacked out), then they're going to need a first-hand reliable witness or footage.

He definitely won't be incriminating himself.
Then you get to fight admissibility if you have to. And pick and prod and pull and just make life hell for the prosecutors. Foundation on cell phone videos alone is a pain in the ass in something like this.

Say nothing. Get your plea, probably do some community service and pay a fine. Maybe miss a few games in September.

Crazy to me how this has blown up.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:30 PM   #1184
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Goddam do prosecutors love guys like this.

**** owning up and taking lumps - that's the prosecutor's job. Prove it or piss off.

Why is he "In real trouble" if he lies? He's in the same amount of trouble. There's some small chance that a local prosecutor may get a burr in his ass about being lied to, but that prosecutor's been lied to by 90% of the people he spoke with that day, from Defendants to defense attorneys.

And ol' Roger doesn't care either way. Lie, don't lie - whatever. Just don't get caught. And if you do, he's going to try to nail your ass to a wall either way.

Take your lumps...wow. No. Just hell no, man. If the prosecutor can't prove you committed any crime, why should you do it for him? And if you aren't sure if he can, well that's what disclosures are for. He's gonna have to tell you what he's got.
He just needs to keep his mouth shut. See if they have the evidence to prove it. Making any statement at this juncture doesn’t serve any benefit.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:31 PM   #1185
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**** owning up and taking lumps - that's the prosecutor's job. Prove it or piss off.
It actually appears at this juncture ducking the cops was incredibly smart

Probably went to a Waffle House to get the story straight.
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