***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigRichard]

I posted this in the DC thread already...

What a ****ing douche... Guy breaks self quarantine to go attend a dance with his daughter and now they are closing the school for the time being. What a selfish ****ing prick.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/famil...elf-quarantine

[Fish]

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

First case of communal transmission in IL. 60 yr old man in serious condition.

Got the suspended domestic travel, everyone work from home email from work.

Some of our offices received the everyone work from home email today. The other sales offices are "use your best judgement" for going to the office or customer meetings. Use virtual meetings if possible.

[Strongside]

KU Med admitted a patient on Saturday.

https://www.kcur.org/post/university...virus#stream/0

[Hammock Parties]

BREAKING: A D.C. priest has Coronavirus. He offered communion and shook hands with more than 500 worshippers last week and on February 24th. All worshippers who visited the Christ Church in Georgetown must self-quarantine. Church is cancelled for the first time since the 1800's

— Sam Sweeney (@SweeneyABC) March 9, 2020

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

BREAKING: A D.C. priest has Coronavirus. He offered communion and shook hands with more than 500 worshippers last week and on February 24th. All worshippers who visited the Christ Church in Georgetown must self-quarantine. Church is cancelled for the first time since the 1800's

— Sam Sweeney (@SweeneyABC) March 9, 2020

Jesus.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Why are you referring to Covid-19 as a version of the flu?

One of our own CP's Mom's has been exposed to the virus. Is now having cold/flu symptoms. I post a reassuring positive post and this is your takeaway?

Originally Posted by DaFace

In terms of symptoms and severity of illness, it's somewhere around the level of a really bad flu outbreak.

Originally Posted by SupDock

Sure, but it's not "a flu".
Maybe I'm being pedantic, but I think correctly naming things is important.

There may be some shared symptoms with influenza, but as for severity of illness we still have a lot to learn.

We are having layman conversations in here. I already had this happen in this thread. I said the virus can cause a increased body temperature. Got taken to task. The body increases your temperature in reaction to the virus, not the virus increases your temp. WTF?


Maybe we can not argue over every little thing. We are not in a Doctors conference.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Donger

Jesus.

This keeps happening because a big chunk of the country still thinks this is just like the flu.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by stumppy

There are scumbags and then there are real scumbags.

https://deadline.com/2020/03/televan...us-1202876625/

Televangelist Jim Bakker Ordered By Attorney General To Stop Selling Fake Cure For Coronavirus

Whatever televangelist Jim Bakker is selling, the New York Attorney General ain’t buying.
Lisa Landau, Chief of the Health Care Bureau, gave The Jim Bakker Show 10 days to comply with a cease-and-desist letter that tells him to stop touting an alleged cure for the coronavirus. The letter was sent Thursday to Bakker’s office and cited a Feb. 12 episode of his show that claimed a Silver Solution sold on his website would be a preventative against the coronavirus...……………..

Based on the article (video) he never claimed whatever silver product he is selling is a cure. He said it was a tool. If you or they have any proof he said it was a cure it would be great before making wild accusations. What he is selling is probably a colloidal silver product but even that is unclear. There are a lot of tools in keeping your immunity up.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Donger

Jesus.

will protect them from getting the coronavirus.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

One of our own CP's Mom's has been exposed to the virus. Is now having cold/flu symptoms. I post a reassuring positive post and this is your takeaway?




We are having layman conversations in here. I already had this happen in this thread. I said the virus can cause a increased body temperature. Got taken to task. The body increases your temperature in reaction to the virus, not the virus increases your temp. WTF?


Maybe we can not argue over every little thing. We are not in a Doctors conference.

Good God could you get more dramatic. He said his mother would get tested and that they don't work in the same area and haven't come in contact with the carrier. Nowhere at all did he say she had been exposed. Just taking precautions.

Talk about sky is falling.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by srvy

Good God could you get more dramatic. He said his mother would get tested and that they don't work in the same area and haven't come in contact with the carrier. Nowhere at all did he say she had been exposed. Just taking precautions.

Talk about sky is falling.

This is what I'm talking about. You guys need to chill.

She is a nurse. Works in the same place where a confirmed cornavirus patient was getting care. Is now having cold/flu symptoms. How does any human being not worry about their family member in that situation? How is that being dramatic?

[FD]

Starting to feel like this isn't actually a "hoax" after all.

[Strongside]

FYI, my mom's fever has subsided but her cough hasn't.

Docs want her to come in for swabbing regardless of the fact that she seems to be recovering a bit this morning.

Hoping it's just a seasonal bug, but...

My wife had Adenovirus a few months ago. Cannot imagine this being worse than that. It was actually fairly common in the metro this year and man...that shit put her down for 2 weeks. Developed Pneumonia from it too.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by FD

Starting to feel like this isn't actually a "hoax" after all.

Never really was, tho