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Old 09-15-2019, 02:33 PM  
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Frank Clark ****ing sucks
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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Old 10-06-2019, 09:59 PM   #1081
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I am not a fan of Clark so far but coming into the game tonight Houston had 1 sack and 3 tackles and Ford has 2 sacks and 2 tackles. Which is pretty much the same as Clark. Ford has a bad knee issue which is probably one of the reasons they decided to trade him.
And we would have still had a first and second round pick. I don't know why you guys keep glossing over that part
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:00 PM   #1082
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I was hesitant even 4 games in of nothing to crush him but yeah its over for me....

Dude has been nothing short of a disappointment and a complete disaster of an acquisition considering the $$ and compensation.
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:02 PM   #1083
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Dick Clark would be an upgrade over Frank.
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:02 PM   #1084
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He’s been a huge letdown with the rest of the defense sans Mathieu.
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:02 PM   #1085
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Veach ****ed up with Houston. That's clear.
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:02 PM   #1086
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:04 PM   #1087
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And we would have still had a first and second round pick. I don't know why you guys keep glossing over that part

Well it is just 1 pick since they got a 2nd rounder for Ford. But yeah I don't like the fact that we gave up a 1st rounder but we weren't going to be better with Houston\Ford
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:05 PM   #1088
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The trade was very suspect from the start -- giving up draft picks for the right to pay what you'd pay if they guy was on the open market isn't a sound strategy. Sure, Clark has been a lot worse than we had hoped, but even before the fact, it's hard to justify that trade.
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:06 PM   #1089
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:06 PM   #1090
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Yeah this trade looks like an absolute disaster.

Veach can’t identify defensive talent
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:07 PM   #1091
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Well it is just 1 pick since they got a 2nd rounder for Ford. But yeah I don't like the fact that we gave up a 1st rounder but we weren't going to be better with Houston\Ford
Couldn't really be much worse either. We'd also have had a 1st Rd pick and a 2nd next year.

Edit- forgot about 49er 2nd rd
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:07 PM   #1092
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Yikes.

Doubt is starting to creep in....
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Well it is just 1 pick since they got a 2nd rounder for Ford. But yeah I don't like the fact that we gave up a 1st rounder but we weren't going to be better with Houston\Ford
But we got worse without them. The pass rushing and run defense has been WORSE this year.
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He’s been a huge letdown with the rest of the defense sans Mathieu.
For only being 1 of 2 active defensive linemen that 4th quarter I thought Saunders did a good job
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Old 10-06-2019, 10:11 PM   #1095
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Title of this thread should be "Brett Veach and Andy Reid ****ing Suck."

And then that should be the only post in the thread, and it should be locked.

These guys would both be on the cusp of getting fired if they didn't luck into Mahomes.

Imagine if Alex Smith was still QB of this cluster **** unit.
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