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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:45 AM   #10516
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Pretty much what I'd hope for these last 2 games. Throw Rice and Ross on the outside with James in the slot for at least 80% of the snaps. Rotate Watson in to spell them. **** the rest. Let them sit and eat shit until they learn how to catch a ****ing ball.
This all day. We simply have nothing to lose now and those three look like the most all round talented WR's we have in the room tbh.
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Old 12-27-2023, 10:24 AM   #10517
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DeSean Jackson needs to get a phone call from Andy.

Dude wants to help and we need the following right now:

Get him in here and sign him as a player/coach.

Right now our season hangs in the balance and our WR's are a bunch of screwups that need a boot in their ass.

Toney is our most talented WR but they load manage him because they don't trust he can go 100% for 20 snaps.

MVS has the speed and talent to be a one trick pony but is not doing basic shit.

Let DeSean walk in that room and he will be able to relay to Andy what changes need to be done to execute. Do we take options away? Do we reduce motion?

Toney and MVS ain't listening to Embree and Nagy. They will listen to DeSean Jackson or they are being cut tomorrow.

We need a real dog in that WR room and an alpha to get these jokers doing basic details.

This will immediately let Mahomes and Kelce know that help is on the way and give us a chance to reset for a run.
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Old 12-27-2023, 10:25 AM   #10518
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Pretty much what I'd hope for these last 2 games. Throw Rice and Ross on the outside with James in the slot for at least 80% of the snaps. Rotate Watson in to spell them. **** the rest. Let them sit and eat shit until they learn how to catch a ****ing ball.
This is what absolutely should happen, but it won't.
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Old 12-27-2023, 10:26 AM   #10519
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They need to get Hardman back ASAP. Mahomes literally hates MVS and it's helping the defense since they know Mahomes won't even look at his dumbass. This is the 3rd media person that has pointed this out watching the Raiders game.

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Old 12-27-2023, 10:27 AM   #10520
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DeSean Jackson needs to get a phone call from Andy.

Dude wants to help and we need the following right now:

Get him in here and sign him as a player/coach.

Right now our season hangs in the balance and our WR's are a bunch of screwups that need a boot in their ass.

Toney is our most talented WR but they load manage him because they don't trust he can go 100% for 20 snaps.

MVS has the speed and talent to be a one trick pony but is not doing basic shit.

Let DeSean walk in that room and he will be able to relay to Andy what changes need to be done to execute. Do we take options away? Do we reduce motion?

Toney and MVS ain't listening to Embree and Nagy. They will listen to DeSean Jackson or they are being cut tomorrow.

We need a real dog in that WR room and an alpha to get these jokers doing basic details.

This will immediately let Mahomes and Kelce know that help is on the way and give us a chance to reset for a run.
Not sure why they haven't already done this yet. It's desperation time, much like with Jason Avant a few years ago. Don't care if D-Jax is washed, he's instantly the 2nd best WR on this team from day one and it's not even debatable.

Clearly they are going to stick with what they have, though, which is really discouraging.
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Old 12-27-2023, 10:30 AM   #10521
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Not sure why they haven't already done this yet. It's desperation time, much like with Jason Avant a few years ago. Don't care if D-Jax is washed, he's instantly the 2nd best WR on this team from day one and it's not even debatable.

Clearly they are going to stick with what they have, though, which is really discouraging.
Yeah, imagine Toney sitting there and seeing DeSean Jackson walk through that door.



Dude going to listen fast.
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Old 12-27-2023, 11:22 AM   #10522
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The WR room broke Mahomes, he doesn't believe in them.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:22 PM   #10523
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The WR room broke Mahomes, he doesn't believe in them.
Yep. And it was an agonizing, slow and steady process.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:23 PM   #10524
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They need to get Hardman back ASAP. Mahomes literally hates MVS and it's helping the defense since they know Mahomes won't even look at his dumbass. This is the 3rd media person that has pointed this out watching the Raiders game.

Who can blame him… MVS should have been cut after the Philly game.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:25 PM   #10525
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Apparently MVS was wide open 3-4 times on deep passes and Mahomes flat ignored him per Nate Taylor.

And I agree that it felt like it was 10 vs 11 for the defense bc of this
Again, that's on Pat and is very disappointing. Do your job, if MVS drops it, it's on him. Pat's better than this, period.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:29 PM   #10526
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Who can blame him… MVS should have been cut after the Philly game.
I can ****ing blame him and so should every fan. He needs to do his JOB. That's the biggest thing you can coach a team. No matter what your teammates do or perform, don' try to cover up their failings, do your job. Pat is better than that, and he knows it. I trust this is the last we see of the wretched performance on Sunday, easily the worst of his career.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:32 PM   #10527
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I can ****ing blame him and so should every fan. He needs to do his JOB. That's the biggest thing you can coach a team. No matter what your teammates do or perform, don' try to cover up their failings, do your job. Pat is better than that, and he knows it. I trust this is the last we see of the wretched performance on Sunday, easily the worst of his career.
We all know that isn't how that works, if guys **** up repeatedly they stop getting the ball, this isn't a Mahomes thing it's a QB thing.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:38 PM   #10528
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We all know that isn't how that works, if guys **** up repeatedly they stop getting the ball, this isn't a Mahomes thing it's a QB thing.
Yep, and at some point the coaches need to get that WR off the field, even if his replacement is considered "worse".
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:41 PM   #10529
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The WR room broke Mahomes, he doesn't believe in them.
So, if Mahomes has weapons, he's Brock Purdy, if he doesn't he's Mac Jones? I refuse to believe that. He played Sunday like the second half of the AFCCG 2 years ago against the Bengals. There's a meme out their saying now you know what Mahomes would have been if drafted by the Bears... Mahomes will figure it out, but he was the main problem on Sunday. Guys were open. He wasn't seeing the field and throwing on time, drifting deep in the pocket again, scrambling and missing guys When he did throw it wasn't very accurate, especially early. As I said before, he wasn't helped by the play calling, not a lot of jet motion and quick slants and crossers to help against the Raiders rush who were lining up wide and crashing hard. We also aren't changing the play at line much. I expect we will see more under center runs, and play action moving forward and more Jet motion when Mecole is back. I still think we will be a tough out for anyone in the Playoffs if we can play 90% clean.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:43 PM   #10530
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So, if Mahomes has weapons, he's Brock Purdy, if he doesn't he's Mac Jones? I refuse to believe that. He played Sunday like the second half of the AFCCG 2 years ago against the Bengals. There's a meme out their saying now you know what Mahomes would have been if drafted by the Bears... Mahomes will figure it out, but he was the main problem on Sunday. Guys were open. He wasn't seeing the field and throwing on time, drifting deep in the pocket again, scrambling and missing guys When he did throw it wasn't very accurate, especially early. As I said before, he wasn't helped by the play calling, not a lot of jet motion and quick slants and crossers to help against the Raiders rush who were lining up wide and crashing hard. We also aren't changing the play at line much. I expect we will see more under center runs, and play action moving forward and more Jet motion when Mecole is back. I still think we will be a tough out for anyone in the Playoffs if we can play 90% clean.
That WR room is SO GOD DAMN BAD, I actually think it is underplayed just how bad it is. There are college team with more talent at the position than we have.

We don't even have a functional NFL passing game because of how bad it is. Several guys are manufactured touch guys, no one can just win on a route, teams play man because no one can win a route.

It's literally a position full of trashcans and we wonder why Mahomes isn't getting it done.
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