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[O.city]

Credit to Pest in the lounge.


Would you give up next years 1 and 29 to get up high enough to take Johnson?

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Good video, confirms much of what Crow has been saying. I felt like there are only two guys I would trade up for in this draft, Jermaine Johnson and Jameson Williams (sorry Franchise).

Watching this video I noticed another one, 6'4" 220lb. Safety, Kyle Hamilton!!

Holy shit! I had no idea he was that big and athletic. He could be a game wrecker too!! I may consider trading up for that guy too especially the way Spags can deploy his Safeties.

I know you guys are probably all over this guy but Im just now finding out about him. WOW

Hamilton is going top 10, maybe top 5. There is as close to zero percent chance that he becomes a Chief as there can be

[emaw1979]

I'm only a fan of trading up for a pass rusher they think can be an impact pass rusher and they need to hit if they do. I'm not ok with trading up high for a WR in this draft.

I do think QB needy teams will be valuing next year's 1st in trade packages because this year's QB class is one of the worst in recent memory. Stock piling ammo to trade up next year is going to be important for those teams.

[SAGA45]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Watching this video I noticed another one, 6'4" 220lb. Safety, Kyle Hamilton!!

Holy shit! I had no idea he was that big and athletic. He could be a game wrecker too!! I may consider trading up for that guy too especially the way Spags can deploy his Safeties.

I know you guys are probably all over this guy but Im just now finding out about him. WOW

Check out Sterling Weatherford (Miami OH). He's also 6'4" 225-230lbs. Obviously, he isn't quite as explosive and instinctual as Hamilton but there are definitely some tools to work with. He should be available on Day 3. I think teams are looking at him as a hybrid. It's likely a Sorensen type role awaits him..

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

The 7th-8th WR and 5th-6th DE are better than the vast majority of other classes.

That in turn helps to push other players down the board as well.

I'd say the draft is stronger than usual in the top 50-60 but peters out after that back to the mean. Edge is stronger than normal through the top 2 rounds but I've also seen some artificial inflation of guys who I think will slide and aren't nearly as talented as they are being ranked. 20 DE's went in last year's first 4 rounds and I'd wager we see approximately the same amount. I don't think WR is stronger, I've seen much better years. I'd say the strength in the depth of the class is actually at LB, RB, and S where all 3 positions are better than normal and not the ones that meet KC's biggest needs. That is what we have to hope pushes down some players at the positions we do need.

[Couch-Potato]

How much to nab Kayvon Thibodeaux if he falls somewhere around #9-#11?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

How much to nab Kayvon Thibodeaux if he falls somewhere around #9-#11?

I'm paying it if it's possible lol.

To get to 9, Hill chart says both 1sts or 29 and both 2's, maybe with small kickers back (4th/5th etc). Johnson model says both 1's and probably 103.

If I can get there for just both 1's, I'd do it all day long for that guy.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'm paying it if it's possible lol.

To get to 9, Hill chart says both 1sts or 29 and both 2's, maybe with small kickers back (4th/5th etc). Johnson model says both 1's and probably 103.

If I can get there for just both 1's, I'd do it all day long for that guy.

Right!? I'm starting to wonder if it's possible.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'm paying it if it's possible lol.

To get to 9, Hill chart says both 1sts or 29 and both 2's, maybe with small kickers back (4th/5th etc). Johnson model says both 1's and probably 103.

If I can get there for just both 1's, I'd do it all day long for that guy.

I would do that, too, but I’d start the conversation offering next years first and this years first along with one of the comp thirds.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Right!? I'm starting to wonder if it's possible.

Not a chance, but it’s fun to think about.

But who knows? Marybeth teams look at DE positional depth and think they can wait to grab one till the second round snd that opens the door.

[Couch-Potato]

#29 & #30 for Kayvon Thibodeaux seems like a pretty obvious play if that price is possible.

#29 + 2023 1st + 3rd = Absolutely.

I think we'd need to get to NY's #7 though.

[BossChief]

Pick 29 35.28
Pick 30 34.17

69.45 points for both.

***For reference, the rest of our picks have the following value…

50 20.01
62 14.62
94 7.17
103 5.88
121 3.94
135 2.88

Here’s what it would take to go up to the following spots…

Pick 8 is 70.90
Pick 9 is 67.66
Pick 10 is 64.58
Pick 16 is 53.35
Pick 21 is 45.51
Pick 24 is 41.36

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Good video, confirms much of what Crow has been saying. I felt like there are only two guys I would trade up for in this draft, Jermaine Johnson and Jameson Williams (sorry Franchise).

Watching this video I noticed another one, 6'4" 220lb. Safety, Kyle Hamilton!!

Holy shit! I had no idea he was that big and athletic. He could be a game wrecker too!! I may consider trading up for that guy too especially the way Spags can deploy his Safeties.

I know you guys are probably all over this guy but Im just now finding out about him. WOW

I've seen a few recent draft mocks that him falling to 17 or so. If that's the case, Veach should get on the phone. He'd be like a bigger, stronger, faster version of Badger. On rookie deal.

That'd be worth trading up for as he could be moved around all over the field.

[Tribal Warfare]

If they're gunning for a passrusher it'll be at the 14th spot

[Dull Tools]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Pick 29 35.28
Pick 30 34.17

69.45 points for both.

***For reference, the rest of our picks have the following value…

50 20.01
62 14.62
94 7.17
103 5.88
121 3.94
135 2.88

Here’s what it would take to go up to the following spots…

Pick 8 is 70.90
Pick 9 is 67.66
Pick 10 is 64.58
Pick 16 is 53.35
Pick 21 is 45.51
Pick 24 is 41.36

I think it is absolutely worth it to nab one of the top 4 edge rushers. When else are we going to get the chance to get a top edge rusher on a cheap deal for 5 years. If they are a hit then it could set us up massively for the next 5 years.

Plus we would likely have 3/4 day 2 picks to get a WR and 2 further defensive additions.

The more I think about it, the more I think this is 100% what veach is thinking.

Have a committee WR room and a top edge rusher.

The hard thing is going to be when to pull the trigger and when they are likely to fall. I think they will all be top 10.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

#29 & #30 for Kayvon Thibodeaux seems like a pretty obvious play if that price is possible.

#29 + 2023 1st + 3rd = Absolutely.

I think we'd need to get to NY's #7 though.

Yeah no way Saleh passes on Thibodeaux.