***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Interesting stuff.

We're smart.

We're not that smart to make something like this. I don't think

[Mecca]

In 6 hours India will be entering a 21 day nationwide shutdown.

[neech]

I wonder if they are going to continue construction of the new airport at KCI, I hope so.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Maybe, maybe not. I doubt that WHO and Johns Hopkins is just ignoring Mexico, we seem to get data from all over the world not sure why Mexico would such a major outlier when it comes to knowing whats going on since they are just south of us.

We used to have ~50 daily flights from China arriving in our country. I doubt Mexico had as many.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

We're smart.

We're not that smart to make something like this. I don't think

Maybe that's what they want us to think.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

In 6 hours India will be entering a 21 day nationwide shutdown.

We should have done that a month ago. SF area doesn't have near as many cases as NY does possibly because of the shelter in place order. now we are ****ed.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Donger

We used to have ~50 daily flights from China arriving in our country. I doubt Mexico had as many.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

4 deaths and its all located in one small area. I am guessing not a lot of travel to and from China from Mexico.

Seems Mexico City would be a hotbed though.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

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[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Olympics postponed until 2021

But apparently they are still going to keep the name "Tokyo 2020".

Link: https://www.olympic.org/news/joint-s...sing-committee

The leaders agreed that the Olympic Games in Tokyo could stand as a beacon of hope to the world during these troubled times and that the Olympic flame could become the light at the end of the tunnel in which the world finds itself at present. Therefore, it was agreed that the Olympic flame will stay in Japan. It was also agreed that the Games will keep the name Olympic and Paralympic Games Tokyo 2020.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

nice

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

But apparently they are still going to keep the name "Tokyo 2020".

Link: https://www.olympic.org/news/joint-s...sing-committee

Well, that’s silly.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by O.city

I've read some things coming out of South korea and japan where they think this may have an R0 of 5.5/6. That's wild.

I've said for a couple weeks now I think we're underestimating how contagious this is. Just look at how is spreads like wildfire through places.

Although to be fair, you see something like the Utah Jazz and they were traveling around with a couple guys who had it and most of the organization didn't get it. I guess that could just be a severity issue.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by tk13

I've said for a couple weeks now I think we're underestimating how contagious this is. Just look at how is spreads like wildfire through places.

Although to be fair, you see something like the Utah Jazz and they were traveling around with a couple guys who had it and most of the organization didn't get it. I guess that could just be a severity issue.

They didn't test positive for it. Doesn't mean they hadn't had it.

Until we start testing for immunity, we don't know. There's likely hundreds of thousands or millions out there that have had it and are now immune.

[dirk digler]

I haven't read back through the thread but this is ****ing scary. They found the virus on the Diamond Princess 17 days later.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-...gers-left.html


Coronavirus RNA survived for up to 17 days aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship, living far longer on surfaces than previous research has shown, according to new data published Monday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The study examined the Japanese and U.S. government efforts to contain the COVID-19 outbreaks on the Carnival-owned Diamond Princess ship in Japan and the Grand Princess ship in California. Passengers and crew on both ships were quarantined on board after previous guests, who didn’t have any symptoms while aboard each of the ships, tested positive for COVID-19 after landing ashore.

The RNA, the genetic material of the virus that causes COVID-19, “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess but before disinfection procedures had been conducted,” the researchers wrote, adding that the finding doesn’t necessarily mean the virus spread by surface.

The CDC said researchers couldn’t “determine whether transmission occurred from contaminated surfaces,” and that further study of COVID-19′s spread through touching surfaces on cruise ships was warranted.

[Donger]

Some might find this interesting:

http://theconversation.com/coronavir...to-come-134076