***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

3-6 days we will know more about how this is going to go

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

3-6 days we will know more about how this is going to go

Try 14.

[BigRedChief]

So long as covid-19 spreads uncontrolled, older people will die in historic numbers, middle aged folks doomed to prolonged ICU stays to fight for their lives, hospitals will be overwhelmed, and most Americans terrified to leave homes, eat out, take the subway, or go to the park.

— Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD) March 24, 2020

[BigRedChief]

But there's no functioning healthcare with hospitals overwhelmed, no return to work with people terrified of a virus raging uncontrolled. There are two ways to end this. Let a vast swath of people catch covid which is unthinkable, or break the epidemic. We must choose the latter

— Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD) March 24, 2020

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Try 14.

This.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by eDave

Phoenix radio station, 99.9 KEZ, to play Christmas music this weekend

Why?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Why?

It's something they do every year for the entire holiday season. I suppose they are doing it for happy thoughts.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by eDave

It's something they do every year for the entire holiday season. I suppose they are doing it for happy thoughts.

It's a riff on the Hallmark channel doing a marathon of Christmas movies to cheer everyone up.

[RINGLEADER]

Best guess using the math for deaths this week:

Tuesday: 216
Wednesday: 341
Thursday: 581
Friday: 719
Saturday: 907
Sunday: 1,110

Not trying to win a bet or anything with this — would like to see if this is tracking higher or lower than the overall averages and if we’re seeing a higher or lower death rate based on the data to date. Hopefully, it’s much lower.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Try 14.

Nah 3-6, if the medical trial proves what I think it’s going to we will be out of this by Earl next month.

Again,

New York is starting Medical trail for same drugs South Korea and India are saying is working.

A Dr. Claims to have already run his own trial in New York today on 350 people that had Corona. All recovered breathing in hours, and were virus free in 3-6 days.

We will know if it’s working, and if it does it will be a major blow to the virus.

[Discuss Thrower]

Uh how?

[eDave]

Don't do that to your links. Thank you.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Nah 3-6, if the medical trial proves what I think it’s going to we will be out of this by Earl next month.

Again,

New York is starting Medical trail for same drugs South Korea and India are saying is working.

A Dr. Claims to have already run his own trial in New York today on 350 people that had Corona. All recovered breathing in hours, and were virus free in 3-6 days.

We will know if it’s working, and if it does it will be a major blow to the virus.

I hope you are right. So far the reports of small numbers of cases are both encouraging and potentially coincidental, but I truly hope it pans out.

[BleedingRed]

Anyways we will know tomorrow if those in trial see and improvement right away... if they do I’m sure they immediately expand the trial. In 3-6 days if it’s working we will be seeing recovery numbers spike, add with social distancing buying time...

Might have just lucked out of this one, with a drug that’s been around forever, is cheap to produce, and that we have in large quantities

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by eDave

Don't do that to your links. Thank you.

Spoiler!