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04-14-2022, 08:22 AM | #1006 | |
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And as far as "comebacks", you realize he would have to be down a lot to get numbers like those. Quality quarterbacks aren't down enough to lead the league in comebacks. They lead the league in wins instead. |
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04-14-2022, 09:23 AM | #1007 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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Well whatever it is, you're now in the 'talking ourselves into the "fanbase try to talk themselves into overpaying for an average QB and then try to convince yourselves that he's a championship caliber guy" stage. Because you just did it in a single paragraph. Is your guy an elite QB? Not by your own admission. So will you be winning a championship with him? No you will not. Because in this league at this time, you are NOT winning a championship with a guy you go into the season conceding simply isn't an elite quarterback. You're especially not doing it when he's the 4th best QB in your division. But like I said - I've been here. Everyone on this board has been here. "If we just give Alex more weapons" or "If we just give Cassel more time". Hell, "If we just give Trent Green a better defense..." Sorry to state and sad to report that no, Derek Carr is not good enough to win with. Unless you mean win 11 games and lose in the playoffs. |
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04-14-2022, 09:24 AM | #1008 |
Wearing ballistic dog goggles.
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04-14-2022, 09:52 AM | #1009 |
You gotta kill a few people
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This extension doesn't really move the meter for me in any way so that tells me this is pretty meh all around.
You can find some arguments supporting him (a lot of his efficiency stats and numbers are right around the 8th-14th best QB mark while his defenses have been legitimately trash) and many that don't (leading the league in turnovers, folding under pressure, etc.). He is probably somewhere around the 10th-15th QB in the league and certainly the worst in the division so this doesn't scare me much. I will say he's got a lot of firepower now, though, with Adams, Waller, Renfrow and that other dude, #89, #88? He seems decent. |
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04-14-2022, 09:57 AM | #1010 |
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04-14-2022, 09:59 AM | #1011 |
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Or drug addict for that matter...
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04-14-2022, 01:11 PM | #1012 |
The talking stonehead
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There aren’t many QB’s that have the benefit of playing for a franchise with such low bars. To be in the league as long as he has now with a 57-70 overall record (with so many last place schedules along the way even) with only 20 of those wins coming against winning teams is amazing. I’m sure a lot of the other average-shitty QB’s like Baker and Wentz wanted to fire their agents after the deal Carr just signed.
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04-14-2022, 01:44 PM | #1013 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/KuhnTrist...3Dunreadunread
Conversation Tristen Kuhn @KuhnTristen Derek Carr cap hits: 2022: 19.3M 2023: 34.8M, 5.6M dead 2024: 43.8M, 3.7M dead 2025: 43.1M, 1.8M dead Carr has a no trade clause but if he doesn’t want to be traded the #Raiders can easily cut him after this season or anytime past |
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04-14-2022, 06:18 PM | #1014 | |
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04-14-2022, 08:33 PM | #1015 |
Tip of the hat LIV Champs
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04-14-2022, 08:42 PM | #1016 |
Tip of the hat LIV Champs
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Derek Carr doesn't use eyeliner he uses Gayliner
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04-14-2022, 09:47 PM | #1017 |
C Chiefs once a year!
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04-15-2022, 05:39 AM | #1018 |
Molôn Labé
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04-15-2022, 06:22 AM | #1019 |
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Of course he does. Checking things down is his specialty. Carr isn't good enough for most fans to even give a shit about him, let alone his wife.
Mahomes is just too famous that everyone in his orbit gets pullled into it. |
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04-15-2022, 07:18 AM | #1020 |
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