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12-21-2017, 11:33 AM | #976 |
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Zo is a stud. You got a hell of a basketball coach. That St. Louis pipeline will pay off big time. For instance Otto Porter loved Zo. He had Missouri State on his top 5 list.
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12-21-2017, 02:12 PM | #977 |
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I've been so overwhelmingly surprised by Cuonzo Martin. So happy to have been wrong about him and so glad my doubts about him have largely proven unfounded.
I think they'll be in the market for a grad transfer scorer again next year, but with how successful Robertson has been, hopefully they do well there. Torrance Watson should be able to play a nice role as a freshman next year. I they bring Tilmon and Jontay Porter back, they'll be set up to do some things inside, especially with Puryear as a solid supporting piece. Need that help on the wing. Hope Cuonzo is able to sell Ramey on the opportunity to come in and be The Man at G. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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12-21-2017, 02:31 PM | #978 |
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I think Tilmon is going to be tough to get back and I think Jontay is almost certain to come back unless he somehow fills out his frame.
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12-21-2017, 02:37 PM | #979 | |
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As much as I like him, he has a couple of fairly fatal warts, especially when combined. I think they'll get him for another year so he can iron out his foul issues and become a premier defensive player. That will get him the playing time he needs at the next level to continue to refine his offensive game. As for Jontay....man, scouts are going to LOVE that kid. His ability to stand his ground against thicker opponents and his innate timing that makes his blocking ability so good will have guys convinced he could play underneath right away, especially with an off-season in an NBA weight program. And his offense...man, that 3 point range and fantastic court vision will have teams drooling over his potential as a true stretch 5. I think he'll probably come back because I think he needs to develop physically and can still do so while refining his post game to make himself a genuine top 10 pick. But there's a real chance he leaves early because the tools he doesn't have right now are related to nothing but his age. And if an NBA team can get that guy on the roster at 18 years old and thicken him up, they'll absolutely take a gamble on him in the teens/early 20s. That's exactly what a smart team does with picks that late. |
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12-21-2017, 02:44 PM | #980 |
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Agree with everything DJ just said re: Tilmon and Porter. I'm more concerned with Jontay leaving than Tilmon.
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12-21-2017, 03:30 PM | #981 | |
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12-21-2017, 03:38 PM | #982 | |
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Lonzo Ball just went #2 overall based on nothing but length and court vision. He was picked with the belief that his kind of vision just can't be taught and to some extent that's absolutely right. There aren't many big men that see the floor like Jontay. And fewer still that see it and can shoot from 3 while also being credible defenders underneath. He could definitely work his way into the lottery during conference play. It wouldn't even take much more than playing time. I'm not saying it's likely, I'm just saying it's more likely than Tilmon figuring out his foul issues or developing a viable mid-range game in-season. Without one or both of those things happening, he's a late 1st rounder at best and likely 2nd rounder. He's presently the more dangerous college player, but Jontay has the better NBA skill-set now and in the future, IMO. |
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12-21-2017, 07:07 PM | #983 |
Now you've pissed me off!
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Tilmon's a dinosaur in the NBA that is about pace and space. There just isn't much room on the floor for someone with that skillset anymore. If it was 1997, he'd probably go top five based on size and relative athleticism for a true big, but those days are long gone.
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12-21-2017, 08:50 PM | #984 | |
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He's athletic enough and runs the floor well enough to see an NBA career for him. Needs to skill up, but yeah, in today's NBA he isn't a one and done like he might have been. |
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12-21-2017, 10:32 PM | #985 | |
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Ramey is a must get. |
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12-21-2017, 10:35 PM | #986 |
Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!!
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How you all doing this year.
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12-21-2017, 10:43 PM | #987 |
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12-21-2017, 10:50 PM | #988 |
Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!!
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12-22-2017, 12:36 AM | #989 | |
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I think we have a 55% chance of making the tournament without Porter. NIT atleast is expected (lame as it is, we haven't played in any postseason tournament since 2014!) Hopefully Porter heals quickly and decides to play in the regular season. I think with a healthy Porter we are 11-1 and looking at atleast 23 wins. Overall, tough to say before conference play. SEC may have been a little overrated. |
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12-22-2017, 08:49 AM | #990 |
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