***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It is very possible that there were more people who had COVID-19 earlier in the month, but because the testing was not as widespread and because they had minimal or no symptoms they didn't know they had it.

The overall numbers that include asymptomatic carriers don’t mean much beyond the fact that they can spread the virus unknowingly. At the end of all this it will show the lethality to be lower but right now the only thing that matters are the number of cases capable of progressing to serious/critical and the impact that will have on health care resources.

If you look at California so far today they are trending in the right direction but I fear that leaving beaches open as late as last week is going to result in another spike. I don’t understand why people can’t grasp how congregating now is what causes this to explode later.

But the steps that have been taken seem to be helping as the rate of spread is slowing day over day. Need to see where we are in a week to get a better grasp on it.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

Anxiety is a bitch. It's not rational whatsoever.

But really what I want to know is if it's a total loss of taste and smell or what?

[R Clark]

So does cold kill covid-19 and if so at what temperature?

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by R Clark

So does cold kill covid-19 and if so at what temperature?

Absolute zero

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

458 deaths/45,000 known cases= ~1.1%. I specifically stated known cases.

And as someone else said its way way lower because of the unknown cases.

Again, the total asymptomatic numbers when factored in will result in a lower death rate.

But that doesn’t matter. What matters is keeping the spread down so that the cases that do become symptomatic are lower and we don’t put stress on the available hospital beds, ventilators, doctors, and nurses. Because when those things start to max out the death rate can skyrocket because there is no available care.

Slowing the spread and having more treatments/making more ventilators is all that matters at this point.

[Chief Pagan]

Unlikely.

Ice can actually preserve viruses. They have found that viruses locked away in n permafrost can be active after thawing. Apparently it is not just a Hollywood trope.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Donger

A wastewater utility in California got backed up last week because people are flushing strips of T-shirts.

I know the Raiders fans are upset that they are leaving for Las Vegas, but that's no excuse for disposing of their gear that way.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I know the Raiders fans are upset that they are leaving for Las Vegas, but that's no excuse for disposing of their gear that way.

It's a fitting end to a shitty piece of clothing if you ask me.

[TLO]

Missouri now has 183 cases. How many people have actually been tested? Who knows.

[FloridaMan88]

New Yorkers fleeing their state’s house arrest measures and heading to Florida.

Shocking.

Gov. Ron DeSantis said he still doesn’t want to lock down Florida in an effort to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus, saying the state has seen a “huge amount” of New Yorkers flying in since that city issued stay-at-home orders.

DeSantis said New York’s experience is further evidence that trying to contain people, which is the recommendation of top health officials, can backfire.

“If you look at what happened in New York, when they did the stay-at-home order, what did people do?” DeSantis said Monday morning. “Well, a lot of people fled the city. ... We’re getting huge amounts of people flying in.”

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...#storylink=cpy

[TLO]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

New Yorkers fleeing their state’s house arrest measures and heading to Florida.

Shocking.

Do you want martial law? Because this is how you get martial law.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by R Clark

So does cold kill covid-19 and if so at what temperature?

There is no such thing as cold. There is just the absence of heat.

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[ToxSocks]

So i've taken a few days off the Covid thing and just lived my life. Any good news in the last few days?

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

So i've taken a few days off the Covid thing and just lived my life. Any good news in the last few days?

No

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by TLO

Do you want martial law? Because this is how you get martial law.

That’s pretty much the only way you are realistically going to enforce these crazy house arrest directives.