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Old 04-23-2019, 11:30 AM  
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:44 PM   #961
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5 Yrs, 105M with a potential opt-out at year 3.

Reports have been that this has no impact on Chris Jones and the Chiefs and his agents are still working a contract that will pay him $20M annually.

And Mahomes? NOTHING is getting in the way of a Mahomes contract. They'll cut this whole ****ing roster before they let him walk, so he's not even a part of the "What-if" equation.

Reek's off field drama is reason enough to let him play it out, then tag him next O/S and work on his contract then. At that point, they can give him Watkins' money.
Okay ... I choose not to dispute those points because I don't want to. And they're actually pretty damn good points.

Except ... do you know those are the terms? If not, I'm still not prepared to calculate the VPP.

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Old 04-23-2019, 03:45 PM   #962
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KC gives up: 640 for their first, and the 2020 swap is the equivalent of gaining about 60 points due to the devaluation of it being next year. Them swapping thirds this year is another 38 points.

So, the Chiefs net draft value is -540, which means the Chiefs traded:

Dee Ford
#36 pick in the draft

For

Frank Clark + his extension.

And this is at a team when NFL teams are valuing DBs more than edge rushers precisely because the edge rushers are only on the field 60-65% of the time. Had they made this trade for Jalen Ramsey, it makes a hell of a lot more sense. In the modern league, smart teams are running out a shitload of decent-but-not-great pass rushers and letting other teams pay out the ass for them. Look at what the Patriots do with their rushers and look who they pay.
Have some GODDAMN FAITH!!!!
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:45 PM   #963
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Why do I have the feeling that Seattle just pumped a mountain of jizz up Veach’s ass?
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:46 PM   #964
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Eh. They need a corner that has speed plus and can cover without help. They don't have that right now.

They're going to be fielding 2 linebackers tops a lot of the time and one of the slots is already penciled in. I don't get the mega concern.
NE will go 2 TE sets and run the football. They did it a lot in both games last year.

We need a linebacker who can thump Michel and White in the A-gap. Hitchens and Ragland were awful last year.
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:47 PM   #965
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:47 PM   #966
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yeah, definitely. and i think first and second round picks would probably help in such endeavors huh.
Absolutely.

They have 4 in the next 2 drafts thankfully.
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:47 PM   #967
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He just spoke to Veach?
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yeah. could have had 6 combining both years, but 4 is still nice for sure.
They need to take a developmental tackle here in this draft at some point.
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So... We essentially traded Dee Ford, AND a first round pick for a LESSER player. Veach is a ****ing moron.
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:49 PM   #971
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So... We essentially traded Dee Ford, AND a first round pick for a LESSER player. Veach is a ****ing moron.
Do you even lift?
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:49 PM   #972
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NE will go 2 TE sets and run the football. They did it a lot in both games last year.

We need a linebacker who can thump Michel and White in the A-gap. Hitchens and Ragland were awful last year.
That's sort of the point of changing to 4 down lineman and reshuffling the deck to prioritize plugging the run. Sorta why comp'ing Dee Ford to Frank Clark is laughable.
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Although this was posted 2hrs ago, it is still wonderful to read and I still enjoy reading this post from the guy who started the individual Frank Clark thread this morning.
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So... We essentially traded Dee Ford, AND a first round pick for a LESSER player. Veach is a ****ing moron.
This ain't it, fam.
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:50 PM   #975
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So... We essentially traded Dee Ford, AND a first round pick for a LESSER player. Veach is a ****ing moron.
what ****ing planet do you live on?

if in your estimation Clark < Ford, then i dont value your opinion at all.
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