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Old 07-26-2010, 12:51 AM  
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Season 4 premiered tonight. I would have bumped the season three thread but I titled it "season 3," which no longer seems appropriate.

Who saw it? It was a stupendous hour of television. All sorts of shit has happened in the eleven months that have passed (in-story) between the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Price and the beginning of season 4. The premeir was stepped in the juices of the sexual revolution. It also had a lot to say about the increasing role of the media in the success or failure of things. It was great to see Don fail a little bit, and it was exciting to consider the future implications at the end of Don crafting a public/media persona that is completely unlike his actual personality.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:58 PM   #961
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I never ever saw anyone working with a drink in their hand on the job including in NY. Drinking was afterwards or when a client came for certain personnel. I remember the Ocean Spray exec had to be taken out and gotten him drunk on purpose because we were behind the deadline. On the other hand there's much accuracy in the series on the ad business side. Such as the account is usually lost after a Clio award is won etc. I was nearly floored when they mentioned Ogilvy never submitted for awards for this reason. I learned that from Ogilvy's book on advertising. And the scene of Young and Rubicon dropping water balloons on black protestors was a true event.
When Brock said 'monster drink' I'm pretty sure he was referring to



Not a huge tumbler of Rye, neat.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:01 PM   #962
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That's what it reminded me of. I can remember thinking that for all the crap millennials catch, these were some of the smartest and most optimistic people I had been around in a long time. Made me feel pretty good seeing such industry among the young, even if it was just to sell more Blizzards.
My wife works at one of the world's largest ad agencies. It's Disneyland for adults. They have a full bar area with at least 30 flat screens. Any time there's a serious sporting event like the World Cup, World Series, NCAA tourney, etc., they bring in food and it's filled with people working on their laptops.

One of my wife's clients last year was Amazon and she was given several Kindle HD's. For Cinco De Mayo, they bring in food and offer Mexican beer all day long. It's like an endless stream of swag.

To me, it's insane. It's like "This is where you work?".
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:02 PM   #963
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When Brock said 'monster drink' I'm pretty sure he was referring to



Not a huge tumbler of Rye, neat.
Oh. I forgot about those. Folks I am with at trade shows drink those.
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:50 AM   #964
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:56 AM   #965
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As for Hamm, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I just haven't seen any range from him. It's just a variation of John Hamm, even in his comedic bits.
I don't know why Hamm can't be as successful as Harrison Ford.

Other than Regarding Henry...not a lot of range.

Maybe times have changed.
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:58 AM   #966
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By the way, I have to say that season 7 is really amazing. Don't think I've seen much else on TV this good. Probably never happen but I'd love for Weiner to write a Star Wars film.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:12 AM   #967
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I don't know why Hamm can't be as successful as Harrison Ford.

Other than Regarding Henry...not a lot of range.

Maybe times have changed.
This is my perspective, only. I'm not trying to impose my will or say that I know more than anyone else:

I haven't found Jon Hamm to be convincing as anyone else other than as Don Draper.

In every other role, IMO, he's been the same. Now sure, he's getting different direction, a different character, etc. But for me, I still see Jon Hamm.

Also, I don't see the movie star charisma. Matt McConaghey has a charm and it's easy to see throughout his career, how he's grown. Same for guys like Damon or Affleck or even Ruffalo. He's no where near an RDJ. There are times when Clooney can't escape himself but then he'll be brilliant in a film like The Descendants.

I'd be more than happy to be wrong but I'm just not seeing it.
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:10 AM   #968
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I haven't seen Hamm in anything but this series.
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:06 AM   #969
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I haven't seen Hamm in anything but this series.
Well, shooting a TV show is demanding. Patrick Stewart wasn't in shit during his 7 year TNG run.
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Well, shooting a TV show is demanding. Patrick Stewart wasn't in shit during his 7 year TNG run.
It's not that demanding, especially since it's only 13 episode seasons. Matt said, there is a huge difference between 13 and 24 in terms of commitment.

Hamm's guest starred in other TV shows and he's been a supporting actor here and there. He also starred in a Disney movie.
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:57 PM   #971
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My wife works at one of the world's largest ad agencies. It's Disneyland for adults. They have a full bar area with at least 30 flat screens. Any time there's a serious sporting event like the World Cup, World Series, NCAA tourney, etc., they bring in food and it's filled with people working on their laptops.

One of my wife's clients last year was Amazon and she was given several Kindle HD's. For Cinco De Mayo, they bring in food and offer Mexican beer all day long. It's like an endless stream of swag.

To me, it's insane. It's like "This is where you work?".
A couple of years ago I worked as part of an events team for a pretty massive corporation here in NYC. I only worked 5 days in their headquarter building. But it was exactly the same as you described, Dane -- just not an ad firm. It was nuts. I've never seen anything like it.
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7 seasons and Don never boffed Joan. Son, I am disappoint.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:56 AM   #973
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OK, proud to announce that I have ripped through season 7 and ready for tonight's finale.

I think I binge watched that entire show faster than anything I've ever seen.
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I haven't seen Hamm in anything but this series.
He was in Ben Affleck's movie The Town. Great flick.
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Did anyone else think Don testing the window in his new office (ep11 or 12 can't remember) was a nod to the opening credits? Or maybe even foreshadowing...

Like, I don't think he will commit suicide. But maybe some prick at McCann will throw him out the window.
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