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Old 01-10-2018, 09:52 AM  
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2018 Free Agents

Who are you letting walk/cutting/retiring?

http://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018/...8-free-agents/


Who are you targeting?

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...t-tracker?pg=1
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Old 03-03-2018, 02:56 PM   #901
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Andy can develop WRs
Can he, though?

The Chiefs WR corp hasn't been very good during his tenure. Bowe flopped, Avery was always injured, Albert Wilson needed 3+ years to become an average receiver, DAT flopped, Conley's been too injured during his career to really have a chance to ascend and Robinson has shown zero ability, IMO, other than to drop easy passes.

Maybe Veach has a completely different idea of what type of receiver will be best for the new offense and QB but Reid hasn't shown any ability to "develop" WR's, outside of Tyreek Hill, who was criminally underrated, talent-wise, due to his off the field issues.
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Old 03-03-2018, 02:57 PM   #902
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I ageee totaly. Fix the damn defense with some vet help.
Flip side of this: the Chiefs offense is very young and the defense still has some really good veteran players on it.

I think Veach adds some vets on offense and the draft will be a defensive overload as they are clearly looking for youth and speed there.
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Old 03-03-2018, 03:11 PM   #903
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If I were Veach, I would go hard to sign Kyle Fuller and Sheldon Richardson. Then you sign a WR, someone like Jordan Matthews, or Watkins or the likes on a one-year deal or reasonable contract for a few years. I wouldn't mind drafting a WR but I definitely favour signing a FA to have something of a sure thing for the beginnings of Mahomes.

As for the rest, you try to find some valuable players for cheap deals.
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Old 03-03-2018, 03:18 PM   #904
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If I were Veach
I for one, am happy you are not
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Old 03-03-2018, 03:43 PM   #905
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Can he, though?

The Chiefs WR corp hasn't been very good during his tenure. Bowe flopped, Avery was always injured, Albert Wilson needed 3+ years to become an average receiver, DAT flopped, Conley's been too injured during his career to really have a chance to ascend and Robinson has shown zero ability, IMO, other than to drop easy passes.

Maybe Veach has a completely different idea of what type of receiver will be best for the new offense and QB but Reid hasn't shown any ability to "develop" WR's, outside of Tyreek Hill, who was criminally underrated, talent-wise, due to his off the field issues.
Bowe failing was 100% Bowe.

I don't think Reid is an elite WR developer, but he's adequate. The Chiefs haven't invested anything beyond a late Friday choice, at best, in the position.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:48 PM   #906
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$5.2 million against the Cap in 2018.

I'd rather they sign him to a Vet Min deal, if they even have any interest.
True

But they could see him first hand for a late round pick and maybe he gets past the injury stuff and becomes a legit number 1 guy?
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:50 PM   #907
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Can he, though?

The Chiefs WR corp hasn't been very good during his tenure. Bowe flopped, Avery was always injured, Albert Wilson needed 3+ years to become an average receiver, DAT flopped, Conley's been too injured during his career to really have a chance to ascend and Robinson has shown zero ability, IMO, other than to drop easy passes.

Maybe Veach has a completely different idea of what type of receiver will be best for the new offense and QB but Reid hasn't shown any ability to "develop" WR's, outside of Tyreek Hill, who was criminally underrated, talent-wise, due to his off the field issues.
Tyreek for one and Wilson another as an Udfa.

He was also playing with smith at qb who is pretty well o own to not exactly help WRs
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:53 PM   #908
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I think that trust and ball placement will be very different in 2018 as opposed to 2017.

Conley has the size, speed and smarts to become a really productive player I think he was on his way to his best season last year when he tores his Achilles.

In many ways, this is kind of a "Make Or Break" season for him because if he doesn't put up 700-800 yards and a few TD's, he not going to get much in Free Agency.
I think he’s pretty misfit in the WCO. He’s not real quick and sharp as a route runner

He should be in a more downfield one I think. He’s a great character guy and could maybe be a good intermediate threat but he’s never seemed to be more than a workout warrior to me
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:54 PM   #909
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True

But they could see him first hand for a late round pick and maybe he gets past the injury stuff and becomes a legit number 1 guy?
That's a lot of "If's", Dude
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:57 PM   #910
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That's a lot of "If's", Dude
Sure but whatever they do this offseason is gonna have a lot of ifs.

Plus I didn’t have one if I’m my post actually
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Old 03-03-2018, 05:15 PM   #911
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Sure but whatever they do this offseason is gonna have a lot of ifs.

Plus I didn’t have one if I’m my post actually
Okay, “maybe’s”

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Old 03-03-2018, 05:22 PM   #912
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Okay, “maybe’s”

But it would def be a risk. His injuries haven’t worked out.

Just trying to think outside the box on how they could use the late round picks for blue chip guys
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Old 03-03-2018, 05:25 PM   #913
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Teams have unreal amounts of cap space and the chiefs aren’t going to be able to compete with them for the big names

They need to ID guys they think maybe had down years because of the system and or coaching and try to get them on cheap deals
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Old 03-03-2018, 05:31 PM   #914
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Teams have unreal amounts of cap space and the chiefs aren’t going to be able to compete with them for the big names

They need to ID guys they think maybe had down years because of the system and or coaching and try to get them on cheap deals
Or even try and trade for them before they’re cut if it’s a big name. But I think some of these players know what’s goin on and KC. I think with an awesome young QB it’s a great selling point.
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Old 03-04-2018, 12:44 AM   #915
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Seattle trying to trade Earl Thomas. Man that’d be fun just for a season LOL. Not realistic at all but would be fun.
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