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05-12-2020, 02:11 PM | #77 | |
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I can't think of an instance of a MLB or NBA player giving money back to a team so that they can pay another player. But if there is one, please do share. MJ taking less would not have affected Pippen's contract. It wasn't because the Bulls were out of money or were up against the cap. They said "you signed it, you deal with it" |
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05-12-2020, 02:15 PM | #78 |
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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-ba...cash-earnings/ Tom Brady's Cash Earnings earlier this decade were $12 million, $13 million, $19 million, $13 million, $14 million, $15 million, $15 million and so on. He was a Super Bowl Winning QB during that time and was most certainly taking a discount. Quote:
If the NBA didn't have a cap, why was Jordan paid $36 million while Pippen, the 2nd best player in the NBA, had to settle for $2 million? It wasn't because the owner couldn't pay him, it's because the owner chose not to pay him and the NBA's Player Association at that time had very little power. Quote:
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05-12-2020, 03:35 PM | #81 | |
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05-12-2020, 04:15 PM | #82 | |
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05-12-2020, 04:20 PM | #83 | |
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He was a narcissistic asshole, plain and simple. No one else mattered. |
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05-12-2020, 04:30 PM | #84 | |
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And I saying, why would he do that? Has anything like that ever happened? Did Bird go to Celtics management and say, "hey I think 'X' should get more money?" Did Magic intervene for Worthy or whoever? Did Tom Brady intercede on Moss' behalf at contract time? Pretty sure the answer is "no." So why on Earth should Jordan have ever "gone to bat" for Pippen about his contract? You seem to expect that Jordan should've done something that no other player ever did in the history of pro sports. As much as I always loved Pippen, I never once thought anything but "he ****ed himself." He signed a deal that wasn't in his best interests long-term, even after his own management told him not to take it. That's on Pippen and Jerrys Krause/Reindorf. Jordan was never a part of that deal. |
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05-12-2020, 04:42 PM | #85 | |
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Big difference. Jordan didn't give a flying **** about anyone but himself. |
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05-12-2020, 04:48 PM | #86 |
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Jordan could have easily spoken out about Pippin's contract to the media and something would have been done about it.
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05-12-2020, 04:49 PM | #87 | |
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I get it now, though. You hate Jordan. Whatever. |
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05-12-2020, 04:53 PM | #88 | |
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But any outside observer can easily see that if the greatest athlete in the world had spoken up about the absurdity of Pippen's contract, Pippen would have been taken care of, immediately. The mere fact that you don't understand that simple notion is quite telling about you. |
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05-12-2020, 05:03 PM | #89 | |
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As for Jordan, he wasn't Pippen's daddy. Pippen was a grown-ass man, able to make his own grown-up decisions. And where does it say that Jordan was even aware of Pippen's contract details before Pippen signed? Did Pippen even discuss his contract with anyone on the team before signing? But that's all just speculation. The fact is, that Scottie Pippen chose years instead of dollars, because of his childhood. It was a mistake, but it was all his. Jordan, or any elite player doesn't have any obligation to be another player's daddy. For that matter, if we're going to go down that road, how do we know that Jordan didn't tell Pippen to try and negotiate for a better deal? |
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05-12-2020, 06:10 PM | #90 | |
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Also it gets forgotten because he was paid so much in the last two years of his Bulls career, but Jordan himself signed a similar shitty long term deal (8 years/25 million) in 1988. In his first comeback season, the 72-10 year, he was still making less than $4 million. If Jordan couldn't even get the Bulls to renegotiate a contract for himself, how was he supposed to make them do it for Pippen? Last edited by Jamie; 05-12-2020 at 06:33 PM.. |
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