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I mean Houston and Berry were absolute no-brainers. And few had a problem with moving on from Ford (most were upset only with the return). Again, we're circling back to the 'giving him credit for pretty routine stuff' complaint I have here. NOBODY thought Houston at $20 million was a good decision. And the moment Berry elected not to get the surgery and the Chiefs had an open path to getting around his injury guarantees, everyone saw that as an open and shut case. Now the combination of the Ford and Clark deals it TOTAL - that's a ballsy move. Look at it from that perspective and you're right. That's an incredibly aggressive decision from Veach and in the end, we won a SB so he deserves that credit. Being willing to essentially move Ford and a 1st rounder for Clark and then paying a premium for Clark over Ford....that's putting his dick on the table a bit. I'm not saying give him no credit. I'm saying give him an appropriate amount and I think in some ways we're overdoing it. The hard part is yet to come. We're staring straight down the barrel of 'the disease of more' as Parcells put it. That's gonna be the true trial by fire for our boy. |
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Clark, Mathieu and Hitchens are hauling around MASSIVE deals. Deals made possible by a cheap QB contract and a generational WR who had to take an ass-kicking in contract negotiations because he was stuck in a legal mess. Not to mention about $8 million in under-market surplus on his Left and Right tackles who were already here when he got here. He hasn't put us in cap hell, no, but he paid the 2 marquis additions he brought in contracts that were at/near record levels. What's the 'finesse' in that? Where's the 'genius'? Especially when one of them also cost a hell of a lot of draft capital. |
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Special Teams ACE!!!
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It's hard to compare GMs across the NFL especially if you only say, "Well, look at all these good players we've added through the draft and from random dumpsters!" Perhaps half of the fans around the league claim their GM is the best in the NFL and will attempt to prove it by compiling a list of talent their guy has added to the roster. Rick Spielman of the Vikings has a VERY underrated resume in that regard. The few dozen Charger fans out there will often claim that Telesco is the best because he hits his drafts out of the park. And hey, yeah, he's more of a meme at this point than he is anything else, but Jerry Jones is fully capable of finding talented players. Again, if we're just making lists of great moves, all of these GMs can boast strong resumes.
You're not special if you can find good players in the NFL. You can find good players. Your division opponents can do that, too. So can half the league. The best GMs are the ones who not only find those players, but they also do so with a cohesive vision and a plan. Bill Belichick isn't that great at drafting, but he wins Super Bowls with weirdly unspectacular rosters because he is always one step ahead of the rest of the league at zigging when everybody else is zagging. Veach has been in a very fortunate environment to begin his career, but he's been VERY active the past couple of offseasons and isn't afraid to challenge conventional wisdom, like when everybody says he's constantly riding too close to the cap limit and he manages to bring just about everybody back for another Super Bowl run. And sometimes those strategies don't work, or they do work but even the best GMs make too many mistakes in implementing them. But ideally if you're in a supportive environment, your owner will keep you around long enough so you can ride out the cycle of disappointment and try again. |
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Replaced by a future HOFer !!
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It's still a collective effort with Reid's blessing in the end IMHO. Reid can downplay his part all he wants but it still goes through Andy.
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@Chiefs General Manager Brett Veach joining us on #NFLLive tomorrow on @espn. The man is making it happen! You will want to tune in. Promise. #NFL |
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Veach went for the gold and got the gold. Sure he tripped over his dick early, but a trophy is a trophy. Ballard had the tools to go for the gold in 2018 and went Ted Thompson. While it's great to have vast capital, it's still not for long and he flubbed it. Veach in Indy could have possibly got them one Lombardi with Luck before the goony mother****er quit to go bird watching or whatever the **** he's doing now. |
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