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Old 02-02-2009, 02:33 PM   #2
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Yea an NFL backup that won 11 games his first year as a starter and threw 21 Td's? You'd rather draft an unproven QB who'll be drafted high by default?
An NFL backup that stepped into the most prolific offense in the league.

Which also seems to be a common occurrence at EVERY position for the Patriots. Guys get hurt, a nobody steps in and does the job.

Being successful in NE doesn't mean success elsewhere.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:36 PM   #3
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Yea an NFL backup that won 11 games his first year as a starter and threw 21 Td's? You'd rather draft an unproven QB who'll be drafted high by default?
Yeah, ignore the fact that he was QBing a team that went 16-0 the previous year and has outstanding WRs. 21TDs? With the team and WRs he had that's an unimpressive number.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:37 PM   #4
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Yeah, ignore the fact that he was QBing a team that went 16-0 the previous year and has outstanding WRs. 21TDs? With the team and WRs he had that's an unimpressive number.
Did you actually watch him play? The guy improved drastically as the season progressed. He started off as a checkdown guy and by the end of the season he was making plays. I don't want to trade for him, but to simply dismiss him like that is just silly.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:38 PM   #5
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Yeah, ignore the fact that he was QBing a team that went 16-0 the previous year and has outstanding WRs. 21TDs? With the team and WRs he had that's an unimpressive number.
You must not have watched many Patriots games. They didn't use Cassell the same way they used Brady. Honestly you're really nitpicking too. Are you trying to say the reason the Pats missed the playoffs was because Matt Cassell? Comparing the 2007 team to the 2008 team is comparing apples to oranges.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:25 PM   #6
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Why's everyone aginst bringing in Cassell?
I'm not. But I don't want us to pay more than a third for him. I actually want us to sign his unfranchised ass outright.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:35 PM   #7
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Why's everyone aginst bringing in Cassell?
Since quite a few of these CP QB gurus were anti-Ryan pro-Croyle this time last year, I wouldn't put much stock into it.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:37 PM   #8
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Since quite a few of these CP QB gurus were anti-Ryan pro-Croyle this time last year, I wouldn't put much stock into it.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:28 PM   #9
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I'll take a 20 year old over a 26 year old. Especially when the younger QB has more experience, isn't the product of surrounding talent, has all the physical tools, and a lot more upside.
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:20 AM   #10
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I'll take a 20 year old over a 26 year old. Especially when the younger QB has more experience, isn't the product of surrounding talent, has all the physical tools, and a lot more upside.
Gah, piss off with the 'Physical tools' nonsense. Kyle Boller had physical tools. So did Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Jeff George, the list goes on. It doesn't matter how hard or far you can throw the ball, if you constantly put the ball into traffic, it's gonna get picked at this level. A million dollar arm is useless when your decision-making is atrocious.
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:37 AM   #11
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Gah, piss off with the 'Physical tools' nonsense. Kyle Boller had physical tools. So did Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Jeff George, the list goes on. It doesn't matter how hard or far you can throw the ball, if you constantly put the ball into traffic, it's gonna get picked at this level. A million dollar arm is useless when your decision-making is atrocious.
Since neither have atrocious decision making we are in a good situation. You probably thought Ryans was a lot worse since he threw 19 INT's right?
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:03 PM   #12
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Since neither have atrocious decision making we are in a good situation. You probably thought Ryans was a lot worse since he threw 19 INT's right?
The resident Football gods point to the Ryan argument as their only claim to fame. You guys have used this line more often than Charlie Sheen using his favorite whore. Enough already! Matt Ryan was a gamble that high by all available evidence at the time. Atlanta rolled the dice and hit snake eyes with it. That's all. I predicted that Clady was a good choice for us and look how I was right. But this is the 1st time I have come anywhere close to using it to argue my Football prowess. GROW THE F**K UP!
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:06 PM   #13
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The resident Football gods point to the Ryan argument as their only claim to fame. You guys have used this line more often than Charlie Sheen using his favorite whore. Enough already! Matt Ryan was a gamble that high by all available evidence at the time. Atlanta rolled the dice and hit snake eyes with it. That's all. I predicted that Clady was a good choice for us and look how I was right. But this is the 1st time I have come anywhere close to using it to argue my Football prowess. GROW THE F**K UP!
How about Jay Cutler and Carson Palmer who put up identical stats to Stafford? Are the two guys who physically compare to Stafford going to be shitty NFL QB's too?
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:53 AM   #14
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Gah, piss off with the 'Physical tools' nonsense. Kyle Boller had physical tools. So did Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Jeff George, the list goes on. It doesn't matter how hard or far you can throw the ball, if you constantly put the ball into traffic, it's gonna get picked at this level. A million dollar arm is useless when your decision-making is atrocious.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:31 PM   #15
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