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11-21-2017, 04:16 PM | |
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David Carr " Chiefs have higher upside with Mahomes"
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Yet, here we are looking at the same Kansas City Chiefs offense we've seen year after year.
The Chiefs have made three playoff appearances since Reid took over as head coach in 2013, losing once in the wild-card game (2013) and twice in the divisional round (2015, 2016). I'm a fan of Reid and quarterback Alex Smith, but with the way things are right now, they'll be sitting at home while Pittsburgh and New England duke it out on Championship Sunday. I was Smith's teammate in San Francisco for one year (2010) and I got to know him well. When the weather starts playing a bigger factor in games late in the season, he's not a guy who can make tough throws in tough conditions. He's particular and wants the football a certain way. The colder the weather the firmer the ball and other conditions make the ball slippery. It's really hard to play in inclement weather as a quarterback, yet there are some guys -- like Brett Favre -- who could grab a ball out of a bucket of water or pile of mud and hurl it downfield. But everybody's not like that, including Smith. The conditions have to be right and the running game has to be there. As we've witnessed throughout his career, Smith isn't often going to transcend an offense and win a game on huge throws -- a frequent critique. He's just not that type of quarterback. Early in the season, we saw Smith make those big plays and the Chiefs were rolling. We've seen downfield shots slowly digress as the season's gone on, a trend that goes back to at least the past two seasons. Since 2015, Smith has been far more effective throwing the ball down field (20-pus air yards) through the Chiefs' first eight games than he has in their final eight, completing more passes (42.1 percent vs. 36.7 percent) with a better TD-to-INT ratio (8:0 vs. 2:4) and a significantly higher passer rating (124.3 vs. 63.1). Furthermore, since Smith's first year with the Chiefs in 2013, his passer rating on pass attempts of more than 20 yards has fallen off in the second half of the season. September: 92.0 October: 111.1 November: 63.5 Dec.-Jan.: 68.8 The Chiefs' high-flying offense started to stall after the Steelers exposed a weakness in Week 6. Pittsburgh played more zone coverage and allowed them to throw the ball underneath by respecting the ability of Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to make things happen downfield. In addition, the run game hasn't been as effective the last five games (the Chiefs are 1-4 in that stretch), averaging 81 rush yards per game. That's 70 yards per game fewer than Kansas City put up in its first five games (all wins). In my opinion, Smith needs the run game to improve or we'll likely see him continue to struggle throwing the ball downfield as this season progresses. I know this sounds crazy, but there's a case for Patrick Mahomes, who played well in the preseason, to start in place of Smith as the playoffs near. The Chiefs gave up a third-rounder and next year's first to draft Mahomes, viewing him as their franchise quarterback of the future. He's a gunslinger who adds another dimension in the pass game when a) the weather worsens, and b) they're trying to go head to head with the AFC's best offenses. It's definitely possible the Chiefs could find themselves in a Nathan Peterman situation, especially if they don't handle the timing of the switch well. We don't know. What I do know, though, is we can expect the same ending to the Chiefs' story if they don't change up their cast of characters. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-limits-chiefs |
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11-22-2017, 09:21 AM | #76 | |
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Playoffs is you make it inside her house Divisional is making it to the bedroom Super Bowl is getting to bang her like all the porn you watched preparing for this night Winning is getting to finish on her face and take pictures If you are not making it to the banging you did nothing but waste time and end up alone and ****ing yourself as you cry in the shower Some of us aren’t happy driving to the house to have popcorn and take a tour of her house like you and others who settle for the participation trophy of making it to the house |
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11-22-2017, 09:22 AM | #77 | |
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11-22-2017, 09:27 AM | #79 | |
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11-22-2017, 09:28 AM | #80 | |
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So yes, Smith COULD win a SB, but the Chiefs now lack some of the key requirements for him to do so. Mahomes probably won’t win the SB for us this year either. It would take special quarterbacking to overcome our defensive weaknesses. However, Smith sure as hell isnt going to do it or he would have been doing already over the last 5 games. People’s side in this debate comes down to what kind of personality they have. Think of driving along in your car and you come up to a traffic jam that is moving slowly but not stopped. You are in a place you don’t know very well and don’t have access to google maps. There are side roads leading off all over the place with no traffic on them. You think they will take you where you want to go, but can’t be completely sure. Do you take off and try to find a way around or do you just sit there in traffic moving slowly along and stick it out? This franchise has been sitting in traffic for years and those of us who would take off on the side roads are anxious to get out of the jam and try a new way. We’ve done the slow and steady thing already and it’s boring as hell. Football is supposed to be fun and unpredictable. Let’s have some fun already. You can’t tell me you have been enjoying Chiefs football over the last 5 games. |
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11-22-2017, 09:30 AM | #81 | |
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Also, don't compare Alex with Russel Wilson or any of those other guys. They have proven to have the ability to step up their games and win. Alex has never done that. |
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11-22-2017, 09:32 AM | #82 |
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I don't buy this argument. If he didn't want to admit his mistake with Smith then they would not have traded up to draft Mahommes. This argument doesn't pass the logic test.
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11-22-2017, 09:36 AM | #83 |
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Hate Cowherd but he has Alex Smith nailed.
""Alex Smith has done this to us five times, maybe four, maybe six. I'm losing count. When he looks great when the weather's good, September, October, and then when it gets cold, the guy without a great arm, when it's windy, and it's cold, and it's rainy, and it's snowing is average. Every single game he's ever played in the playoffs, except one when he won 30-0 against Brian Hoyer, didn't you think in every one of those games, he's the second-best quarterback on the field? In his last three playoff games, he's had exactly one touchdown pass in each playoff game. His big playoff win, 30-0, took the opening kickoff for a touchdown did Kansas City against Houston, Brian Hoyer, warm weather, four touchdowns. Here's an interesting stat. Bill Belichick always says football is about post-Thanksgiving. It's cold, it's wet, it's dreary, it's windy, it is rainy. You've got to be able to play in that weather to win Super Bowls. It doesn't matter how good you are in September and early October. Here is Alex Smith, 35 degrees and below in his career, 5-7, 60% completion rate, under 200 yards a game, a pathetic 15 touchdowns, 10 picks, and a passer rating of 82. Do you know what his record is when it's 60 or above? His passer rating jumps to 90. His touchdowns and interceptions, 2 to 1 ratio. His record is 40-22. Am I supposed to believe Alex Smith in the offseason had a bunch of creatinine, and he has totally jacked up now. He can throw a great deep ball. We've seen this multiple times. Certain guys, very good early, those are often guys without the howitzer, without the big arm, without the big frame. Yet a Joe Flacco can struggle early. But in the playoffs, big strong 6' 5", 245, Joe Flacco has been pretty good. Tom Brady throws a pretty good football in cold weather, is fantastic in December and January. I've got nothing against Alex Smith. But how much do we know in the NFL for sure? This is the team we love. I've seen Alex Smith play several playoff games late in the season. He always looks like the second-best quarterback on the field. And if you look at his win-loss record, his completion percentage, his passing yards a game, his passer rating, and his touchdowns in cold weather, which is November, December, and January football, he's below average. Why do we keep getting fooled by stuff? So if this is the team we're absolutely sure is great, you want to make a bet they're not as good December 9th."" |
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Football isn't an individual sport. So rather than complaining that all our pieces suck, I would ask what Alex Smith is doing to make his offense better. Does he get rid of the ball quickly? Not at all. Does he stretch the defense to give Hunt room to run? No. Does he consistently help his blockers by quickly and consistently spotting the hot read on a blitz? No. Does he give his receivers opportunities to make plays or does he continually reward the safety valve? I think we all see that we have plenty of playmakers on offense, but we have a QB who just can't get it done. I don't want a QB that needs an elite defense to win games. We need a QB who can carry our team a few times too. I'm cool with giving him the rest of the season. I'll do cartwheels if he figures this thing out and good thing we're hitting this wall early. Unfortunately, I don't know that this is a problem Alex can wiggle his way out of. The only way for Alex Smith to beat this slump is to stop being Alex Smith. |
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11-22-2017, 09:44 AM | #86 |
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Good thing you're not a chick, otherwise you'd fall for the "I promise not to cum in your mouth" line every time.
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11-22-2017, 09:46 AM | #87 | |
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We didn't lose that Steelers game because of Alex Smith. He had a bad game but overall he played pretty much just as well as Big Ben did. Difference was Bell ran all over us while our running game was pretty much nonexistent. And Alex Smith has stepped his game up in the playoffs plenty of times. Check out his playoff stats. They speak for themselves. |
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11-22-2017, 10:09 AM | #88 |
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11-22-2017, 10:23 AM | #90 |
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Seems pretty wild for a QB to come out and throw a former teammate under the bus like that, he better not be expecting a Christmas card from the Smith household this year
I know Reid benched McNabb and others, but its just hard to see him doing it in this instance IMO |
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