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#76 |
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I have not heard good things about this, unfortunately. I was kind of looking forward to it.
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#77 |
Needs more middle fingers
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
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I don't care about black dwarves or gay elves (lets be honest, elves are pretty gay even if they're "straight").
I didn't read any of the books nor am i invested in the lore. I just hope they can deliver a competent story that keeps me engaged. To which i must say i am doubtful of. |
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#78 | |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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#79 | |
You gotta kill a few people
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I literally Googled "George Martin responds to lack of diversity on Game of Thrones" and half of the hits referenced that one response to a fan's post. In fact, that search doesn't even result in a full page worth of relevant links; there were some articles about stuff that had nothing to do with GoT. Of the few legitimate articles I found, you're talking about a couple pieces by Vanity Fair and Teen Vogue along with John Boyega and Will I Am saying they aren't satisfied with the casting choices of the show (who gives a shit what they think?). I'm sorry, man, but this just doesn't move the meter. |
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#80 | |
Forever Royal
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Amazon commits $1 billion and 5 seasons to bring LOTR to TV
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Just admit you didn’t know this occurred at all. This shouldn’t be that hard. And that it’s pretty ridiculous to not think more louder criticism would have occurred with LotR given differences between almost ten years ago and now. You want to minimize GRRM but Wall Street Journal and many others picked up and wrote on the GRRM stuff and lack of diversity in general. That’s how these things start. Small then grow. And that was in 2014. Imagine the difference between now and then. And it’s not nothing when the person responsible for casting has to defend her casting choices. It would have been much louder now. Missandie, “It definitely caused me to reflect a lot more — about race and diversity more generally," she said. "At the end of the day, if there’s ever a show on the level of Game of Thrones again, representation has to be part of the conversation from the beginning. That way, there’s no single person who has to represent every other person of color." I’m not saying it was some huge trending scandal. It occurred despite not really having a leg to stand on given the source material. It would have been much louder and at the forefront had LotR done similar. I don’t think it’s good or bad, just the way it is, and they made a choice to accept one source of criticism over another. Last edited by mr. tegu; 02-23-2022 at 09:08 AM.. |
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#81 |
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2019
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If the "diversity" of the cast bothers you, take comfort in knowing that the humans in LOTR are almost exclusively white. That means pretty much all minorities were exterminated before "Fellowship of the Ring". Get out your Jergens and enjoy!
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#82 | ||
You gotta kill a few people
Join Date: Sep 2007
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That wasn't my argument though. I already told you an article or two here and there isn't much of a bar. I was specifically talking about outrage and scandal: Quote:
I'm pretty plugged in to the streets. I've had so many discussions about the show and not a single one ever mentioned the lack of diversity. |
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#83 | |
Here We Go Again
Join Date: May 2002
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It's usually whiny whites doing the whining about diversity or representation. |
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#84 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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My problem with this isn’t that they have black elves or dwarves, it’s that it feels forced and inorganic.
For instance, The Batman has a black Catwoman and Commissioner Gordon, but watching the trailer and knowing Matt Reeves and those 2 actors, he didn’t cast them because they were black. They’re logical castings. I feel the same way about Idris Elba being 007. That’s a great casting if it happens. But when I heard the rumors that DC/WB wanted to make a “black Superman movie” with Michael B. Jordan, it sounded terrible before it even started. If you’re going into it thinking “I want to have black dwarves and elves”, it’s likely more about your politics than coming from a place of trying to make something good. Race shouldn’t matter. I get the sense that whoever is running this show did it purposely, which is always a red flag. There’s natural diversity, and then there’s diversity for the sake of diversity. It doesn’t bother me to the point that I can’t still enjoy the show, but it gives me concerns that the show won’t be good. I’d love for them to prove me wrong. Last edited by staylor26; 02-23-2022 at 02:34 PM.. |
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#85 | |
You gotta kill a few people
Join Date: Sep 2007
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#86 | |
Needs more middle fingers
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
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#87 |
Forever Royal
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Honestly I would rather see an entire group of elves or dwarves or whatever made up of a different race as opposed to token ones here and there. That feels more natural just given how small geographically isolated populations work. I liked how Wakanda and Black Panther was in that regard.
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#88 | |
Forever Royal
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Yeah in the real world normal people don’t care much about things like this. Normal people who talk to other people in real life definitely are not a good barometer for useless internet criticism occurring. |
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#89 | |
Live free or die hard
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Durango, CO
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I read both Wiseguy and watched Goodfellas. One of my favorite stories of all time. How about if someone remade the story with Robert De Niro's character as a cross dresser, Joe Pesci's character as a flaming gay (ala Richard Simmons), Henry Hill as a transvestite, and Big Paulie as a crippled bi-sexual. Respect the lore if you're going to use the title or don't piggyback off it. |
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#90 |
Mindful Taoist German
Join Date: Aug 2000
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