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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust
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#871 |
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Join Date: Mar 2023
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His 6'1 height is going to be a problem unless he learns to throw over defenders...
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Andy Reid Supporter
Join Date: Apr 2012
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For the most part QB play was generally down again league wide, at least stat wise, especially passing. Only 2 QB’s threw for 300 or more yards and one of them got to 300 bc of Tyreek’s YAC. Only 2 QB’s threw 3 or more TD’s and one of those QB’s was playing the god awful Panthers. Fangio’s cover 2 shell is working really well at cutting off the deep ball and making QB’s work for points. That’s exactly what happened to Caleb yesterday. And you see teams copying SF’s SB defensive plan of keeping the QB in the pocket at all costs through DL manipulation while also removing the deep shot. This ain’t the PAC 12 anymore. Those WR’s aren’t gonna be running free and you’re gonna have to be better with technique and accuracy if you’re gonna build the drives needed to score points. |
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#873 |
pie is never free
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: the drivers seat
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#874 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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He's seen Patrick Mahomes do Patrick Mahomes things and thought "Hell, I can throw sidearmed - how hard can this be?" Notice how many times he tried Mahomes Stuff Sunday? Lots. He tried dropping his arm slot. He tried the scramble and throw against his body stuff. He tried the things he's seen Mahomes do and he's convinced himself it ain't that hard and he can do it. It failed. Every time. Detox said it well - he looked like a guy who convinced himself he'd done the work when he really hadn't. He was going to take the league by storm because he convinced himself he can do the things Mahomes does. And never understood the amount of preparation that Mahomes does to make all those things work. You ever watch movies with water-skiiers or snow skiiers that are 'out of control' and you realize how insanely good at skiing those stunt-men are? It's harder to look like you're out of control when you're not than it is to just look technically perfect. Patrick Mahomes is that insane stunt man that looks 'out of control' when he's actually completely composed because he's THAT good. Meanwhile Caleb Williams is a 12 year old bombing down a black because he saw his older brother do it and 'it didn't look that hard...' |
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#875 |
Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Miami, FL
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Caleb Williams looked like every Bears QB since Sid Luckman… under 100 yards passing and reliant on the defense/special teams to carry him to a win.
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#876 |
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#877 |
Live free or die hard
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Durango, CO
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Actually not as bad as I thought after watching the highlights.
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#878 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Dec 2005
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#879 |
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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IMO evaluating a rookies first game isn't necessarily about looking at the raw numbers but looking at how they respond to NFL defenses on tape...And it didn't look good for party-boy. He's slower than Mahomes (slower three-cone drill times) and doesn't have elite body control like Mahomes and yet he tries to play like Pat. Whoever runs the Bears should make it their lifes mission to separate Williams from his crony's and toxic family so as to hammer it home that he's no Mahomes (or even Russel Wilson). He's got elite NFL accuracy married to elite NFL arm talent and some illusiveness. He should be comping himself to Kurt Warner or some other traditional QB's or old gamers like Plunkett. I doubt that happens because this kids' ego is in the stratosphere. And when pampered QB egos get bruised and defalated you wind up with Ryan Leaf and Jeff George.
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#880 |
The man you could post like.
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#881 |
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
Join Date: Aug 2013
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That offense had even less rhythm to it yesterday than it did in the preseason, and that's saying something.
Houston is going to pound their ass hard. |
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#882 |
Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Miami, FL
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Not sure why Chicago didn’t replace Eberflus with an offensive-minded HC to help with Caleb Williams’ development
It’s not like Eberflus has a great track record of success to justify keeping him as the HC in Chicago. |
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#884 |
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I just hate that Nick Wright decided to prematurely crown this MFer. Because I love Nick. But that was always a mistake.
He isn't making no Super Bowl 59 like Nick says regardless of if he is good. And I'm not sure he is gonna be. |
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#885 | |
CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆
Join Date: Feb 2018
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The thing is people got high off a few scramble plays in preseason when the sneaky issue was he failed to operate in structure in both games. Especially against the Bengals second string. The hype he has means defenses are gonna give him serious attention and he had no clue how to deal with it yesterday. To the point where his ability to process quickly will be questioned if it continues. Because he held onto the ball way too long. Last edited by UChieffyBugger; Yesterday at 10:36 AM.. |
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