***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Spott]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

same dumb asses that are drinking beer from other kid's butt cracks on spring break.

Raider fans always up to something.

[suzzer99]

Got this today for my cousin's wedding in Cancun in June:

Dear suzzer,

I’m touching base to remind you that your final payment due date is approaching for your travel package. To make a payment, please click the payment form link below. Thank you!

Payment Form:

How bout no? Funny thing is I thought I already paid. Nope - just a $50 deposit and I didn't get a plane ticket yet. Yay me.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by phisherman

Pretty much. Just stay home, people. It's not that hard.

It is extremely hard if you need to work so you can live.

This ****ing with people’s livelihoods is not going to end well if it lasts for any real length of time. And 30 days is fast approaching a breaking point for a whole lot of people.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BDj23

Just go by yourself, nobody will be there. Used to play that shitty 9 hole alvamar course for free all the time in the winter back in the day.

Wanna go to Augusta?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

isn't the military giving us a bunch of ventilators to use?

we had 10K in reserve. The military is supplying another 2K.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

I haven't heard a lot about the "days behind Italy" talk much in the past few days?

NY governor is pushing the panic button.

ALBANY — Uncle Andy Needs Your Help!

Gov. Andrew Cuomo has ordered every local health department across the Empire State to contribute unused respirators as well as asked local businesses to produce badly needed supplies, as New York desperately tries to prepare for a wave of critically ill coronavirus patients.

“It’s ventilators, ventilators, ventilators. That is the greatest need,” Cuomo told reporters at the state Capitol.

“We’re notifying any health department in the state: if you have a ventilator and you are not using it at this time or it is non-essential to your use, we want it. If you are a regulated health facility, we are asking you by order of the department of health to make that ventilator available,” he said.

“We will purchase it from you if you could lend it to us, but we need ventilators and anyone who has them now please call the New York State Department of Health.”


New York only has about 3,000 ICU beds empty at any given time and estimates that it has between 5,000-6,000 ventilators, which officials fear the pandemic will quickly overwhelm.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

That would be great but most (not me actually) would consider this a luxury. It is most likely that we won't have anything close to accurate figures for over a year on this.

People need to realize that we have absolutely ZERO clue at this time how many people are infected and how many have already recovered. The most likely scenario is that we have 5-10x as many infected(or previously infected and already recovered) as the numbers currently show.

One hopes that is the case, but if the rate of hospitalization keeps growing exponentially, it is going to break the back of our hospitals.

[dirk digler]

So I have real high anxiety right now about getting this virus but also economically. Should I start pulling money out the bank?

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So I have real high anxiety right now about getting this virus but also economically. Should I start pulling money out the bank?

Yes, let’s have a run on the banks to complete this disaster!

I’m sorry, the sarcasm really isn’t directed at you personally. I’m just frustrated at this unnecessary situation.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

It is extremely hard if you need to work so you can live.

This ****ing with people’s livelihoods is not going to end well if it lasts for any real length of time. And 30 days is fast approaching a breaking point for a whole lot of people.

Almost every business is closed. Where are people supposed to work? We need to stay home and hope the curve gets bent.

The government has no choice but to pay expenses of the majority of its citizens for 30-60 days if it wants to avoid a really bad outcome of this whole mess.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

It is extremely hard if you need to work so you can live.

This ****ing with people’s livelihoods is not going to end well if it lasts for any real length of time. And 30 days is fast approaching a breaking point for a whole lot of people.

Yeah there's nothing better than seeing people cheer for shutting it all down when they personally don't have a job that gets immediately ended by such a policy.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Almost every business is closed. Where are people supposed to work? We need to stay home and hope the curve gets bent.

The government has no choice but to pay expenses of the majority of its citizens for 30-60 days if it wants to avoid a really bad outcome of this whole mess.

If they came out and stated that was the plan it would be nice.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So I have real high anxiety right now about getting this virus but also economically. Should I start pulling money out the bank?

Not sure why there would be any reason for that.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So I have real high anxiety right now about getting this virus but also economically. Should I start pulling money out the bank?

No. That's the last thing anyone (and everyone) should do. It'll be okay. Your money is safe (intended).

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by wazu

Yeah there's nothing better than seeing people cheer for shutting it all down when they personally don't have a job that gets immediately ended by such a policy.

I haven't seen anyone 'cheering' to shut it all down.