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03-29-2016, 01:41 PM | #856 |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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"completely at fault" - of course not.
But he DID steal from his dad and his dad did seem to be a pretty good dude, if not an incredible pussy. Chuck knew this and whether or not Jimmy's conduct is actually what led to the business to fail, etc..., it's still damn strong evidence corroborating Chuck's view of his brother. |
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03-30-2016, 12:05 PM | #857 | |
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I'd also be careful extrapolating too much from that 1973 flashback. Yes, Jimmy took $8 out of the till -- after Dad gave $10 away to the grifter, after he gave money to some other hard-luck story the week before. That establishes a pattern. So was Dad so generous that he gave away $14,000 over several years to sad sacks, putting his business in jeopardy? (While I was watching I was trying to calculate if that were feasible. Perhaps not.) Jimmy technically wasn't even taking from his Dad there, he was taking $8 of the $10 that his Dad had already given away to the grifter (and not expecting it to be spent on smokes at the store). Now, did that become a pattern -- did Jimmy start skimming from the till? Maybe. But unlike the evidence with Dad, the only piece of info we have to substantiate that conclusion is Chuck's version of events -- which brings us back to biased perspective and issues of trust. I'm not saying Jimmy didn't or couldn't have stolen from his old man. But with this show, with its depth of character, I wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple layers to this -- such as Chuck forever holding Jimmy responsible for something he didn't do because of an assumption based on Jimmy's reputation. That to me would make for a much more interesting dynamic. |
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03-31-2016, 08:22 PM | #858 |
Shit
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Yeah I'm betting Jimmy didn't take the money
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04-02-2016, 10:38 AM | #859 |
Under the Sofa
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04-02-2016, 12:01 PM | #860 |
Live free or die hard
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04-02-2016, 05:52 PM | #861 | |
In Search of a Life
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What if Chuck mentored Jimmy instead of strongly sabotaging any chance for Jimmy to succeed? By the end, Chuck becomes a trigger for Jimmy to do bad things. |
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04-04-2016, 10:28 AM | #862 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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Jimmy appears to be 10-15 years his junior; they likely never truly knew each other or were terribly close. When Chuck bails Jimmy out of jail early in the series we're told that they barely communicate. Even if you set aside whether or not he stole from dear ol' dad, we do know that Jimmy had a history growing up of being a slippery little shit and a born con-artist. You continue to blame Chuck for not fixing Jimmy when in fact Jimmy was already a problem child and Chuck has no obligation to subject his firm to that and no obligation to correct a couple of decades worth of behavioral issues from him. |
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04-05-2016, 01:31 AM | #863 | |
In Search of a Life
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Maybe Chuck originally was trying to save the firm from Jimmy. But then it was Davis & Main, who were fine with Jimmy wheeling and dealing on the bus. And now it's Kim, a bystander. It's pretty amazing that Chuck could almost care less about the firm, but suddenly becomes very interested when Jimmy becomes involved. This is definitely personal. Maybe Jimmy was going to be slippery no matter what. But I don't think that justifies going really far out of his way to sabotage his brother, let alone Kim. |
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04-05-2016, 01:35 AM | #864 |
Deus ambulans inter homines
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God, this show is so good.
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04-05-2016, 05:24 AM | #865 |
I like 'em mustard & biscuits
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I can't WAIT to see how Jimmy is gonna use the altered docs to screw Chuck.
that POS! BUT....the previews make it look like Chuck busts Jimmy.... |
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04-05-2016, 08:37 PM | #866 |
Stay positive, don't give up
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Preview def looks like Chuck finds out...man I hate Chuck.
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04-05-2016, 08:38 PM | #867 |
George Brett shit his pants
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04-05-2016, 08:50 PM | #868 |
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Great episode but holy shit, the ****ing guitar tone on the song that starts at about 53 minutes is ****ING AWESOME.
Killer Dwayne Eddy/Eddie Cochrane tone with a spring reverb and great playing. Way ****ing cool. |
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04-05-2016, 09:00 PM | #869 | |
Deus ambulans inter homines
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Chuck is anything but a brother to him, the same man who actually has looked out for him, helped him, and supported him when he became a Techno-electrophobic recluse. |
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04-05-2016, 10:47 PM | #870 |
Unsparing
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Why did they pick the dumpiest restaurant near my shop to film? I can't imagine any scout walking about saying, "this place is IT"!
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