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Old 04-26-2021, 05:37 AM  
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Falcons taking calls on Julio Jones
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A hamstring injury limited Jones to just nine games last season, though he still put up strong numbers when he was on the field. He caught 51 passes for 771 yards and three scores as the Falcons finished the year 4-12. From 2014-19, Jones missed only four games and averaged 104 catches and 1,564 yards per season. SI Link.







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Surprises? Keep an eye on Atlanta. I can’t predict any bombshells. But a few things would not surprise me. Most notably, the Falcons putting the framework of a trade together for star wideout Julio Jones, and making the trade effective June 2. That way, Atlanta could split Jones’ cap charge between 2021 and 2022 instead of getting bashed with it all this year. So if such a trade happens, I expect it could involve a future pick or picks, nothing this year. (A future second-round pick as compensation seems fair to me.) Because such a trade wouldn’t be official till June, no picks in this draft could be involved. As for the interested team or teams, I would guess Las Vegas; Jon Gruden couldn’t resist Antonio Brown, and I doubt he could resist Julio Jones. New England too, and a couple of teams with clear receiver needs—Tennessee and Baltimore.

Now, the Falcons don’t really want to trade Julio Jones. He’s a franchise legend. But he’s 32, entering his 11th season, coming off a banged-up year with seven games missed due to injury, and the Falcons are in cap jail. If they could off-load his money and cushion it by splitting it between this year ($7.75 million) and next ($15.5 million), Atlanta’s cap charge on Jones this year goes down by a tad more than $15 million.

One final note here, to be very clear: I am not reporting the Falcons will trade Jones, or will probably trade Jones. I am saying it would not surprise me if it happened.
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:19 PM   #796
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And the Chris Jones contract looked like it wouldn't get done even the day before it actually got done. If the Veach really wants Julio and they have a trade structure agreed to, he'll figure out how to make the Mathieu extension work. He'll give in a little to some of Mathieus demands and play less hardball to get it done.
The Chris Jones deal was much farther along than where Matthieu is now. I don't agree with your statement at all.
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:20 PM   #797
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The Chris Jones deal was much farther along than where Matthieu is now. I don't agree with your statement at all.
How do you know that lol
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:21 PM   #798
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I'm not convinced the Chiefs want to extend him.
It certainly appears that they're not inclined to pya him what he currently wants.

At his age, it's not inconceivable that they'd prefer not to extend him to huge money.
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:22 PM   #799
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How do you know that lol
Because there was all kinds of smoke about Jones' new deal leading up to his new deal.

Everybody knew it was going to get done.

Conversely, every report we have on Matthieu is that they're not even close to agreeing to terms.

You seem willing to ignore reality, so it's really not worth discussing further.
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:32 PM   #800
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No, I get what you and ht are saying and I agree.

If we're talking a second round pick and a $15 mil. cap hit, the Chiefs simply cannot do that.

But for a 3rd and some salary cap offset (get him under $10 mil. this year), plus a depth WR (DRob?), then I think the juice might be worth the squeeze in that scenario . . . . . .
I would say if that is the cost someone else would jump in front of us with a better offer.


Hell they may get a second from draft-rich team
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I want Julio too. I think he'd make an excellent addition if Veach can wave a magic wand and just make it all work somehow.

But i'm also a realist, so i just got done watching Mecole Hardman's 2020 highlights as i fully expect him to be our #2 WR.
Even in a perfect world where Mecole plays to his potential...the injury risk is still there for he and Tyreek.

If either of them go down, this is one of the worst WR corps in the AFC.
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:39 PM   #802
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Even in a perfect world where Mecole plays to his potential...the injury risk is still there for he and Tyreek.

If either of them go down, this is one of the worst WR corps in the AFC.
You could say that about a lot of teams.

It's the same thing with the offensive line argument. How many teams are 4 deep at every position? NONE.
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You could say that about a lot of teams.

It's the same thing with the offensive line argument. How many teams are 4 deep at every position? NONE.
Exactly.
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Conversely, every report we have on Matthieu is that they're not even close to agreeing to terms.
I'm kind of surprised by that.

He seemed to really like it here and Veach seemed to really want him. I know it all changes come contract time and hardball is played by all but I wouldn't have expected it to be difficult...
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I'm kind of surprised by that.

He seemed to really like it here and Veach seemed to really want him. I know it all changes come contract time and hardball is played by all but I wouldn't have expected it to be difficult...
Matthieu wants to be the highest-paid safety in the league and he's probably earned it, to be honest. He's definitely top 3.

From the Chiefs side though, he's not getting any younger, he's undersized, and he's had a few injury problems.
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Old 05-25-2021, 03:21 PM   #806
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Mathieu can hit the market to see if other teams are willing to pay what he's looking for. Nothing wrong with that.
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Julio should work a deal with the Falcons. To get moved next season when the cap is not ****ed. If health is not an issue.
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The Chris Jones deal was much farther along than where Matthieu is now. I don't agree with your statement at all.
There was radio silence between Chris Jones and the Chiefs for MONTHS and Jones was even threatening to hold out. There was a lot of speculative trade talk surrounding Jones right up until his extension was announced. You are so far offbase with the above.

If Veach wants to get the freaking Mathieu extension done it will happen within a matter of hours.

The below article of "Chiefs and Chris Jones have never been further apart" was posted on July 5th. Jones' extension was finalized a week later.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si....as-city-chiefs
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There was radio silence between Chris Jones and the Chiefs for MONTHS and Jones was even threatening to hold out. There was a lot of speculative trade talk surrounding Jones right up until his extension was announced. You are so far offbase with the above.

If Veach wants to get the freaking Mathieu extension done it will happen within a matter of hours.
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