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**Rain Man** · 03-22-2009, 12:15 AM

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

Spoiler!

Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

Teams As Of Post #113:

Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.)

**Rain Man** · 06-26-2019, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow

We can trade a 2020 6th for LB Darron Lee if we so choose, just food for thought for everyone.

I'm in on that one.

Good point. I'll be delighted to make that trade.

listopencil · 06-28-2019, 03:20 PM

Hey Rainman, is this an ermine?

**Rain Man** · 06-28-2019, 03:36 PM

Wow, that's an awesome ermine.

What a team mascot that would make.

**wazu** · 08-21-2019, 08:45 PM

I'm regretting already that I didn't just go along with Frank Clark.

**Rain Man** · 08-21-2019, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu

I'm regretting already that I didn't just go along with Frank Clark.

Yeah, maybe so. None of my guys so far has captured a starting job, which I guess I should expect by trading down. But I think I'm a genius by making these moves.

**Rain Man** · 09-01-2019, 05:35 PM

Time to do our cutdowns to the 53-man roster.

Here is my final roster. I had some very painful cuts, which makes me happy. I've got some weaknesses, but I've got enough strengths that I had to cut some strong players.

QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick (Chargers)
Nathan Peterman (Raiders)

My depth is young and unproven, but my starter is very strong.

RB
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)
Damien Williams
Lesean McCoy
Justin Jackson (Chargers)

I managed to turn this from a weakness into a powerhouse. I'm very happy with this group.

WR
Sammy Watkins
Donte Moncrief (Jaguars)
James Washington (Steelers)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)

I need Watkins to have a good year. I've got young ascending guys who could turn this into a strong unit, but right now it's mediocre at best.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Isaac Nauta (Lions)
Caleb Wilson (Cardinals)

Kelce and two practice-squad rookies. I did this to myself. I'll be using lots of running backs and receivers.

OT
Mitchell Schwartz (Browns/Chiefs)
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)

Schwartz is still out of position at LT, but he can do it and Moses is decent. Crosby is a backup LT. I'm fine here.

G
Cody Whitehair (Bears)
Michael Jordan (Bengals)
Andrew Wylie
Wyatt Teller (Browns)

Whitehair got moved to G, which surprised me. Jordan won a starting job as a rookie, and Wylie is a starter. Teller just got traded but is battling for a starting job. I'm in good shape here.

C
Austin Reiter

I thought Whitehair was my center, but he got moved. Reiter claims the starting spot. I'll be fine.

K
Harrison Butker
P
Dustin Colquitt
LS
James Winchester

Best specialist team ever.

FS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)

The guy's been a rock for me for a decade. He's good.

SS
Tyrann Matthieu
Jordan Poyer (Bills)

Got a nice free agent, which lets me use Poyer as swing depth. Poyer has started at both SS and FS.

CB
Desmond King (Chargers)
Marcus Peters (Rams)
Kendall Fuller
Bashaud Breeland

I'm strong here, though King and Fuller are both slot guys. I can make this group successful.

OLB
AJ Klein (Saints)
Damien Wilson
Anthony Hitchens
Jaylon Ferguson (Ravens)
Darron Lee
Sutton Smith (Steelers)

Well, I've got numbers on my side here. I keep trying to find playmakers here, but I'll settle for solid.

MLB
Zach Brown (Eagles)
Reggie Ragland
Ben Niemann

Zach Brown has been my guy forever. He'll do great.

DE
Alex Okafor
Anthony Nelson (Buccaneers)
Dorance Armstrong (Cowboys)
Taco Charlton (Cowboys)
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)

Still trying to put some ends on the field. Okafor is my starter on one side, and I think Nelson will be the other starter, though it could be Armstrong. Charlton has been a disappointing first-round pick, but he's holding a backup spot.

DT
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Maurice Hurst (Raiders)
Star Lotulelei (Bills)
Joey Ivie

We're strong in the middle. Got a good combo of established veterans and young players.

My cuts are as follows. My tough final 10 percent of cuts are in green.

Spoiler!

kccrow · 09-01-2019, 10:34 PM

Some tough decisions this year and this is a work in progress. I'm not happy with my D-line depth but overall I think the team is improving.

Post-Draft Moves:
Accept trade of UDFA CB Mark Fields to Minnesota Vikings for 2020 7th Round Pick
Accept trade of FA RB Carlos Hyde to Houston Texans for OL Martinas Rankin
Accept trade of 2020 6th Round Pick to New York Jets for LB Darron Lee

Draft Tab:
2020 1, 2, 2 f/SF (D. Ford), 3, 4, 5, 7
2021 Additional 7 f/MIN (M. Fields)

2019 Roster

OFFENSE (25)

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Matt Moore (FA/19 - KC)

I've been running 2 QBs for a few years now, so no change here with Mahomes being an ace.

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA)
RB - LeSean McCoy (FA/19 - KC)

Still have a good solid stable of backs with Jones and Carson, both starters, and McCoy coming in.

FB - Anthony Sherman

The tank keeps on truckin.

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC)
TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - NO/PS)

Kept a practice squad guy I drafted in Mack over Blake Bell. Not much here outside of Kelce, but hoping the youngsters develop.

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC)
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN)
WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - KC/PS)

Went shy on the receivers this year. Boyd and Watkins are a solid 1-2. Higgins will do his normal solid contribution I'd think. Johnson looks like he might snag the #3 role in Minnesota, so I'm hopeful there. Went with Thompson on the PS in KC as #5 since I really had no other options outside of DAT. I think he'll develop and end up on the 53 at some point.

OT - Eric Fisher
OT - Mitchell Schwartz
OT - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS)

Kept 3 tackles but Gray is on the PS in PIT. I kind of expected it because they like to take low-round lineman and develop them for a couple years, but they turn into studs quite often.

OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
OG - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB)
OG - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)
OG - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19)

Connor McGovern being moved from G to C by the Broncos threw a huge wrench in my position group here, but Wylie will likely see action and Madison is developing. I'd start McGovern at G on my team. Rankin is a shot in the dark I'm going to keep for now, but I'm not too concerned given my depth on the interior overall.

OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - DEN)
OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO)
OC - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC)
OC - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL)

I took McCoy because I lacked confidence in Reiter long-term, but now I have 3 guys penciled in as starters to open the season at the position and Bozeman saw snaps last year in BAL. Either way, I have a ton of interior O-line depth and it made it hard to get rid of these guys, thus keeping 11 lineman, when 9 is usually my max.

DEFENSE (25)

DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF)
DL - Xavier Williams (FA/18 - KC)
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU)
DL - Joey Ivie (FA/18 - KC)
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - BAL PS)

I failed to address D-line in the draft and now I could pay for it. I don't have a single starter on my squad unless Phillips unseats Lotulelei in Buffalo. All my other guys sans Sieler should see significant snaps. Sieler was a surprise cut and stash on the PS by BAL for me after there were talks he could compete to start during the offseason. That moves leaves me gasping for straws on the front.

ER - Justin Houston (IND)
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL)
ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC)
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG)
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR)

I'm fairly stacked at edge rusher with good veteran talent and good developmental talent behind them. Hopefully, it all works out but Ximines looked really good in the pre-season and so did Kpass. Since Houston was cut and not an expiring contract, I was able to keep him around and he'll start in Indy.

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC)
LB - Reggie Ragland (t-BUF/17 - KC)
LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC)
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Darron Lee (t-NYJ/19)

I had to cut Blair Brown after his domestic battery crap and the Jags cutting him, which leaves me with KC's trash and Holcomb. Holcomb looked really solid in pre-season and I think he steals a starting position sooner than later in WAS.

CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC)
CB - Kendall Fuller (t-WAS/18)
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN)
CB - Morris Claiborne (FA/19 - KC)

SF moving Moore to FS, his natural and college position, after an experimental year at CB changed the dynamic of my CB group but I did take Murphy in the 1st and he looks like he'll start by next year. Hill is on suspension to start the year but looked good in his opportunities last season. We know what the rest is. I hung onto Claiborne as depth.

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN)

Bates is a stud and the Chiefs' addition of Mathieu helped. Moore moving to his natural FS spot and likely being the starter there gives me a deep group. Hooker looked like a baller in pre-season and Tennessee is gushing about him so far. Could go from crap at Safety to an absolute stud group in 2 years. Unlike with Houston, I let Berry walk. My spirit wasn't feeling him on this roster anymore.

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)

K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Dustin Colquitt
LS James Winchester

No sense in messing with greatness.

I don't have too many notable cuts, but I'll list the ones that either made the Chiefs roster or I drafted and cut this year.

DB Jordan Lucas - I made the trade w/MIA but just not roo
LB Ben Niemann - I love him on special teams but I had to keep talent elsewhere
DB Dan Sorensen - My safeties look good so he wasn't a must keep
RB Darrell Williams - McCoy buried him further down the depth-chart and I already have 2 starters.
LB Blair Brown - Drafted him in the 5th two years ago but he got cut after a domestic battery charge. I also showed him the door no matter what the result.
CB Tremon Smith - Drafted him just like KC but he's very expendable in his current role, which I doubt lasts much longer in KC either
WR Stacy Coley - Drafted him in the 6th two years ago but he couldn't stick with the Jets after his short stint in Minnesota, so project over.

**Rain Man** · 09-01-2019, 11:31 PM

Oh, I forgot to mention that I traded my 6th round pick next year for Darron Lee, and I too will take the Mark Fields trade since it was free for us.

kccrow · 09-02-2019, 09:30 PM

Just wanted to put together how I'm doing so far in this thing... Sure, some recent things will have to shake out. As it stands, looks like I'm pulling about 3 starting caliber players per draft and 1-2 backup/role players. That's not too bad. I still think Madison ends up a starting OG in GB at some point (this is essentially his rookie year) and I have pretty high expectations for my top 5 draft picks in 2019, especially the top 4, after their showing in preseason this year and I believe all become starters by year 2 or 3.

Draft Results Tracker to Date

Spoiler!

**Rain Man** · 09-04-2019, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow

Just wanted to put together how I'm doing so far in this thing... Sure, some recent things will have to shake out. As it stands, looks like I'm pulling about 3 starting caliber players per draft and 1-2 backup/role players. That's not too bad. I still think Madison ends up a starting OG in GB at some point (this is essentially his rookie year) and I have pretty high expectations for my top 5 draft picks in 2019, especially the top 4, after their showing in preseason this year and I believe all become starters by year 2 or 3.

You had me at Mahomes.

kccrow · 09-07-2019, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

You had me at Mahomes.

Man, I was fully prepared to dump every draft resource that year to go up and get him if at all possible. Thankfully, the Chiefs did the smart thing and it allowed me to fill up my RB stable on top of it.

**Rain Man** · 02-09-2020, 08:00 PM

Okay, how did my team do this year? Not as good as Andy's, but that's fine.

On offense, I have pro bowl guys at QB, RB, and TE, and likely at LT. That makes for a solid offense. My WRs and one guard position were weak, but all in all it's a strong offense.

My defense isn't the same story. I've got a great backfield with two all pros at CB and SS, and solid starters and depth. But my front seven doesn't make a lot of splash plays. They're decent against the run, but can't generate pressure.

My special teams is great, of course.

All in all, I think this is a playoff team, but not a Super Bowl team. What do others think?

QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick (Chargers)
Nathan Peterman (Raiders)

Russell had a great year and was a pro bowler, and my backups sat on the bench, which is ideal. Maybe Stick will start next year since the Chargers need a QB. Peterman is out of the league, so I'll need a backup next year.

RB
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Damien Williams
Lesean McCoy
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)
Justin Jackson (Chargers)

Kamara had about 1,300 total yards and a pro bowl, so he was RB1. Damien has about 700 as my RB2 and he was great in big games. McCoy, Penny, and Jackson were good niche players, so this unit was very strong.

WR
James Washington (Steelers)
Sammy Watkins
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Donte Moncrief (Jaguars)

Washington and Watkins were a talented duo, though they underachieved my expectations (However, Watkins was a GREAT big-game WR). Harmon emerged from the pack as a rookie to become a serviceable #3. Isabella was a huge disappointment, as was Moncrief. This unit was shallow and moderately serviceable. I need a WR1 here.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Isaac Nauta (Lions)
Caleb Wilson (Cardinals)

Kelce is the best TE in the league and was a pro bowler. He's in essence my WR1. Nauta and Wilson were both rookies who were there to learn. Good starter, no depth.

OT
Mitchell Schwartz (Browns/Chiefs)
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)

I continue to use Schwartz out of position at LT, but he can do it and is the best RT in the league (even though he wasn't a pro bowler). Moses is a dependable right tackle. Crosby is a backup LT. This is actually a pretty good unit.

G
Cody Whitehair (Bears)
Michael Jordan (Bengals)
Andrew Wylie
Wyatt Teller (Browns)

This unit is deep, but I need more quality. Whitehair is adequate, and the other three all got action, but none took the position. I need an upgrade here.

C
Austin Reiter

Reiter was great. A team could win a Super Bowl with Reiter at center.

K
Harrison Butker

Great clutch kicker. Should have been named to the pro bowl even if he didn't play in it.

P
Dustin Colquitt

Former MVP.

LS
James Winchester

Highly reliable. Messed up one snap all year.

FS
Jordan Poyer (Bills)
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)

SS
Tyrann Matthieu

Poyer is a solid free safety, and Mathieu is an all pro at strong safety. No depth, but this is a good pair of starters. After nine years as a starter, Reshad Jones had an injury-plagued year and was in the tub for most of the season.

CB
Marcus Peters (Rams)
Bashaud Breeland
Desmond King (Chargers)
Kendall Fuller

Really good CB group. Peters was an all pro, and Breeland was a solid outside starter. King and Fuller are both great nickel backs. I like this group.

OLB
Damien Wilson
AJ Klein (Saints)
Jaylon Ferguson (Ravens)
Zach Brown (Eagles)
Darron Lee
Sutton Smith (Steelers)

Not necessarily a strength, though they're generally functional. Wilson and Klein were consistent starters, and Ferguson is an ascending backup.

MLB
Anthony Hitchens
Reggie Ragland
Ben Niemann

We all know these guys. Hitchens on 1st and 2nd down, Niemann on 3rd down, and Ragland in short yardage. No stars, but functional.

DE
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)
Alex Okafor
Taco Charlton (Cowboys)
Dorance Armstrong (Cowboys)
Anthony Nelson (Buccaneers)

Boom! Odenigbo came out of nowhere to become a good pass rushing lineman. Okafor came in as a free agent and played well before his injury. Charlton is the best of an underachieving group of youngsters in the backup spots. I keep hoping for development here. This is a weak spot overall considering that Odenigbo is small for the position.

DT
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Maurice Hurst (Raiders)
Star Lotulelei (Bills)
Joey Ivie

I have a solid but unspectacular rotation here. Billings and Williams are good starters, with Lotulelei rotating in and Hurst playing on passing downs. Overall, I think they're average for the league.

kccrow · 02-14-2020, 03:58 PM

Your defense is in far better shape overall than mine. I think you need more explosiveness at WR and a better pass rush, but looks like a solid roster that would be a playoff team.

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Matt Moore (FA/19 - KC)

Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL and Moore saved the season. Can't do much better.

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA)
RB - LeSean McCoy (FA/19 - KC)

I had as dynamic of a 1-2-3 punch at running back as you could ask for. Jones led the way as my all-purpose back with 1,086 yards on the ground, 474 receiving and 19 total TDs. Carson was no slouch either, rushing for 1,230 yards and receiving for 266 more and 9 total TDs. McCoy was an early season producer but just icing on this rushing attack with 465 yards rushing, 181 receiving, and 5 TDs.

FB - Anthony Sherman

The tank keeps on truckin.

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC)
TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - NO/PS)

Good thing Kelce was a 2nd team All-Pro because Yelder did little and Mack actually ended up on KC's practice squad.

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC)
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN)
WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - KC/PS)

Boyd had another top-notch year for me with 1,046 yards and 5 TDs. Watkins came up big in big moments. My reliable #3 in Higgins turned into a bench warmer that may be on his way out in Cleveland. Thankfully, Johnson started producing this year as a rookie and finished with 31 receptions for 294 yards and 3 TDs. Thompson didn't make it in KC and ended up over in Seattle and is on a reserves/futures contract. I might need to add a couple guys this offseason.

OT - Eric Fisher
OT - Mitchell Schwartz
OT - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS)

Fisher and Schwartz are a great duo. Gray spent the year on the practice squad and re-signed to a reserves/futures contract with Pittsburgh so all is not lost yet.

OG - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL)
OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
OG - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB)
OG - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)
OG - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19)

Bozeman moved from reserve center to starting LG in Baltimore this year and looks to be developing nicely. My late-round flier looks pretty solid at the moment. LDT had his moments but wasn't great. Wyle and Rankin are solid reserve guys. I'm not sure what will happen with Cole Madison, but his future is up in the air at the moment.

OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO)
OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - DEN)
OC - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC)

I have 3 starting centers on one roster, which really helps my depth and the ability to slide a guy to OG if need be. My 2nd round guy, McCoy, looked like he has the makings of a future All-Pro. McGovern is solid and Reiter is adequate.

DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF)
DL - Xavier Williams (FA/18 - KC)
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU)
DL - Joey Ivie (FA/18 - KC)
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - BAL PS)

Losing Phillips the 3rd week of the season really hurt an already bad defensive line. Losing Xavier Williams made it almost unbearable. Watkins was a reserve that had 23 tackles and 1 sack. Ivie saw action in 3 games and didn't do a thing for Tennessee. Sieler ended up bouncing to Miami mid-year and ended up seeing action in 3 games, including 1 start, with 8 tackles and 1 sack. I have some major work to do here in the offseason.

ER - Justin Houston (IND)
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL)
ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC)
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG)
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR)

Houston continues to be a good player with 44 tackles and 11 sacks. Judon is much the same, just a terror on the edge with 54 tackles and 9.5 sacks. Okafor chipped in 22 tackles and 5 sacks, Ximines looked like he'll have a future with 25 tackles and 4.5 sacks, Kpass had 29 tackles and 4 sacks, and Okoronkwo got some field time in 10 games with 7 tackles and 1.5 sacks. I'm still doing more than fine on the edge, but Houston and Judon aren't getting any younger.

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC)
LB - Reggie Ragland (t-BUF/17 - KC)
LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC)
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Darron Lee (t-NYJ/19)

We know this group, primarily. Highlighting my lone addition, Holcomb took over a starting ILB spot early this year and finished with 105 tackles and 1 sack. He's going to be solid for a while I think. Time to add around him.

CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC)
CB - Kendall Fuller (t-WAS/18)
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN)
CB - Morris Claiborne (FA/19 - KC)

Byron Murphy ended up starting and having 78 tackles, 10 pd, and 1 int in year one. He had his growing pains and was targeted alot, but taking that abuse and surviving as a rookie means he should only become better and better, especially working with Peterson. We had good returns from Breeland and Fuller resurrected the end of the season playing some safety. Hill didn't get to build much on his strong rookie year as he spent half the season suspended and finished with 13 tackles, 1 pd and 0 int. Depending on what happens with Breeland, I may need to add again early on this year.

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN)

Bates was an absolute stud once again at FS with 100 tackles, 9 pd, and 3 int. Mathieu was the heart and soul at SS with 75 tackles, 2 sacks, 12 pd, and 4 int. Moore was a solid reserve with 3 starts and had 25 tackles and 3 pd. Hooker was also a reserve that finished with 19 tackles.

K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Dustin Colquitt
LS James Winchester

We know this group, very good but Colquitt should probably be replaced.

Overall, my offense is nearly untouchable. Solid line. Great QB. Great running game. Pro-Bowl level WR1. All-Pro TE. It's pretty special.

Defensively, much to be desired. I had a strong pass rush and outstanding safeties, but everything in between was fairly devoid of talent. I can't complain too much about my LBs but an upgrade from Hitchens is needed. The defensive tackle position has to be addressed and CB could be better.

Honestly, I think this would be a Super Bowl team if I had better defensive tackles. I think teams would have gashed me inside.

**Rain Man** · 02-16-2020, 08:54 PM

Other than your defensive line, your team's a powerhouse, kccrow. You've been drafting really well.

chiefscafan · 02-23-2020, 11:24 AM

Ok catching up my roster I’ll take all free agents and our draft last year

Also Frank Clark trade I’ll update rest tonight

LA Cobras Roster ready for 2017 Draft

2015 Draft:

1-18: OLB Bud Dupree Kentucky

2-49: OG. Ali Marpet Hobart

Don't do trade up in third

3-80: WR. Ty Montgomery Stanford

3-98: QB Bryce Petty Baylor

4-117: WR Dandre Smelter Georgia Tech

Accept Ben Grubs Trade

5-172: DE/DT Michael Bennett Ohio State

5-173: DE Anthony Chickillo Miami

6-200: DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches Southern Miss

6-217: WR Austin Hill Arizona

7-233: OT La'el Collins LSU

Ok I had kelcie McCray but I accepted the trade to seattle. I'm also gonna accept the bucs trade down so here are my picks

1-28 (28th): Myles Jack ILB/OLB UCLA

3-11 (74th): Kivaree Russel CB Notre Dame

4-8 (106th): Eric Muarry CB/S Minnesota

4-28 (126th): Demarcus Robinson WR Florida

5-25 (162nd): Kevin Hogan QB Stanford

5-28 (165th): Kyle Murphy OT Stanford

6-28 (203rd): Mike Thomas WR Southern Miss

7-28 (249th: Vernon Adams QB Oregon

Ok. LA Cobras draft 2017

We accept A and B trade reject C and TE wasn't on our team

1st: QB: Pat Mahomes Texas Tech

2nd: DE: Tanoh Kpassagnon Villanova

3rd: RB: Kareem Hunt Toledo

5th: DT: Caleb Brantley Florida

5th: WR: Robert Davis Georgia State

6th: WR: Gabe Marks Washington State

6th: OT:Chad Wheeler USC

2018 Draft

2:52: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn

3:86: Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama

4:122: Maurice Hurst , NT, Michigan

5:159: Kyle Fitts, DE, Utah

6:196: Tremon Smith, CB, Central Arkansas

6:209: Bradley Bozeman, OC, Alabama

7:233: Jordan Mailata, OT, Australia ��

7:240: Will Clapp, OC, LSU

7:243: Hercules Mata’afa, DT/DE\OLB, Washington State

2019 draft

2019 2 Mecole Hardman WR

2019 2 Juan Thornhill. S CB

2019 3 Khalen Saunders DT

2019 6 Rashad Fenton. CB

2019 6 Darwin Thompson. RB

2019 7 Nick Allegretti. OG

QB

15 Pat Mahomes
8 Matt Moore
9 Kyle Shirmur

HB

28 Mark Ingram
27 Kareem Hunt
34 Darwin Thompson
31 Darrel Williams

FB
42 Sherman, Anthony

WR

14 Sammy Watkins
17 Mecloe Hardman
11 Demarcus Robinson
13 Byron Pringle
12 Gherig Dieter

87 Travis Kelce
81 Blake Bell

T

71 Mitchell Schwartz
78 La’el Collins
74 Martinas Rankin
69 Chad Wheeler

G

66 Jackson, Gabe
75 Bradley Bozeman
74 Ali Marpert
76 Lauren Duvernay-Tardif
61 Steven Wisnewski
65 Will Clapp

C

62 Austin Reiter
77 Nick AllGretti
65 Will Clapp

K
7 Harrison Butker

P
2 Dustin Colquit

LS

41 Winchester, james

FS

32 Tyrann Mathieu
22 Juan Thornhill
49 Daniel Sorrenson
23 Armani Watts

SS

36 Ronnie Harrison
32 Tyrann Mathieu

CB

33 Carlton Davis
35 Chavarius Ward
21 Bashaud Breeland
27 Rashad Fenton

OLB

48 Bud Dupree
43 AJ Klein
53 Anthony Hitchens
54 Damien Wilson

MLB

44 Myles Jack
59 Reggie Ragland
56 Ben Niemann

DE

57 Frank Clark
90 Emmanuel Ogbah
94 Terrell Suggs
52 Demone Harris

DT

73 Maurice Hurst
99 Khalen Saunders
64 Mike Pennel

IR

LB / DE Hercules Mata’afa
OT Jordan Mailata
DE. Breeland Speaks
DE. Tim Ward
WR. Joe Fortson
TE. John Lovett
WR. Marcus Kemp
DT. Caleb Brantley

Here you go final 53 man roster took a while but I did it. Collins at LT and Mitchell Schwartz at RT wish I would’ve drafted Eric fisher now but hindsight is 2020. Love my rbs plus my D is probably better than the chiefs. Too many guards If this were real sure my team would trade one of our four starting guards for a quality LT by now.

Draft needs RB, WR, LT, CB best draft was 2018 Davis, Harrison, hurst, Bozeman are all starters

03-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years. 1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster. 2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add. 3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing. 4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster. 5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have. 6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post. 6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. 7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players. Original post: You can ignore this now. Spoiler! Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon. The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting. Here's how the game will work. Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.) Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly. Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub". Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285. Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues. Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player. There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap. I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting. So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team. Teams As Of Post #113: Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox) Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333) Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman) Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon) Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover) Duluth Normans (Rain Man) El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz) Fargo Rape (SNR) Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good) Fresno Refugees (Adam) Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter) Hartford Manticores (Crush) Honolulu Craters (Sully) Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu) Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser) Little Rock Reapers (doomy3) Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan) Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis) Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut) Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka) Omaha Streakers (speak24) Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry) Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72) San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog) Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg) Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23) Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts) Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1) Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie) Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk) Worcester Sauce (unothadeal) Added Rules and Reminders: 1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted. 2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in. 3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent. For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259) For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.) You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.) Last edited by Rain Man; 04-25-2024 at 11:30 AM..*
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06-28-2019, 03:20 PM	#797
listopencil Immanentize The Eschaton listopencil's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In Partibus Infidelium	Hey Rainman, is this an ermine?
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06-28-2019, 03:36 PM	#798
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Wow, that's an awesome ermine. What a team mascot that would make.
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08-21-2019, 08:45 PM	#799
wazu ... wazu's Avatar Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO	I'm regretting already that I didn't just go along with Frank Clark.
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09-01-2019, 05:35 PM	#801
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Time to do our cutdowns to the 53-man roster. Here is my final roster. I had some very painful cuts, which makes me happy. I've got some weaknesses, but I've got enough strengths that I had to cut some strong players. QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Easton Stick (Chargers) Nathan Peterman (Raiders) My depth is young and unproven, but my starter is very strong. RB Alvin Kamara (Saints) Rashaad Penny (Seahawks) Damien Williams Lesean McCoy Justin Jackson (Chargers) I managed to turn this from a weakness into a powerhouse. I'm very happy with this group. WR Sammy Watkins Donte Moncrief (Jaguars) James Washington (Steelers) Andy Isabella (Cardinals) Kelvin Harmon (Redskins) I need Watkins to have a good year. I've got young ascending guys who could turn this into a strong unit, but right now it's mediocre at best. TE Travis Kelce (Chiefs) Isaac Nauta (Lions) Caleb Wilson (Cardinals) Kelce and two practice-squad rookies. I did this to myself. I'll be using lots of running backs and receivers. OT Mitchell Schwartz (Browns/Chiefs) Morgan Moses (Redskins) Tyrell Crosby (Lions) Schwartz is still out of position at LT, but he can do it and Moses is decent. Crosby is a backup LT. I'm fine here. G Cody Whitehair (Bears) Michael Jordan (Bengals) Andrew Wylie Wyatt Teller (Browns) Whitehair got moved to G, which surprised me. Jordan won a starting job as a rookie, and Wylie is a starter. Teller just got traded but is battling for a starting job. I'm in good shape here. C Austin Reiter I thought Whitehair was my center, but he got moved. Reiter claims the starting spot. I'll be fine. K Harrison Butker P Dustin Colquitt LS James Winchester Best specialist team ever. FS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) The guy's been a rock for me for a decade. He's good. SS Tyrann Matthieu Jordan Poyer (Bills) Got a nice free agent, which lets me use Poyer as swing depth. Poyer has started at both SS and FS. CB Desmond King (Chargers) Marcus Peters (Rams) Kendall Fuller Bashaud Breeland I'm strong here, though King and Fuller are both slot guys. I can make this group successful. OLB AJ Klein (Saints) Damien Wilson Anthony Hitchens Jaylon Ferguson (Ravens) Darron Lee Sutton Smith (Steelers) Well, I've got numbers on my side here. I keep trying to find playmakers here, but I'll settle for solid. MLB Zach Brown (Eagles) Reggie Ragland Ben Niemann Zach Brown has been my guy forever. He'll do great. DE Alex Okafor Anthony Nelson (Buccaneers) Dorance Armstrong (Cowboys) Taco Charlton (Cowboys) Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings) Still trying to put some ends on the field. Okafor is my starter on one side, and I think Nelson will be the other starter, though it could be Armstrong. Charlton has been a disappointing first-round pick, but he's holding a backup spot. DT Andrew Billings (Bengals) Brandon Williams (Ravens) Maurice Hurst (Raiders) Star Lotulelei (Bills) Joey Ivie We're strong in the middle. Got a good combo of established veterans and young players. My cuts are as follows. My tough final 10 percent of cuts are in green. Spoiler! QB Matt Moore - Wouldn't have minded a veteran backup, but no room. Chase Litton E.J. Manuel RB Carlos Hyde Samaje Perine (Redskins) Aaron Ripkowski, RB WR Byron Pringle - I could've used six receivers, but went with other priorities. Marcus Kemp Sammie Coates, WR Davon Grayson, WR TE Blake Bell - I could use him this year, but decided to go with more developmental players. Deon Yelder, TE Ben Koyack (Jaguars) Alex Ellis David Wells, TE OT Martinas Rankin - Wouldn't have minded keeping him to develop, but there was no room. Corey Robinson (Panthers) Pace Murphy, T Justin Senior, T G Christian Westerman (Bengals) FS Miles Killebrew (Lions) Harold Jones-Quartey, DB Ron Parker CB Morris Claiborne - I could have used a fifth CB because I'm thin on depth, but couldn't quite fit him in. Keith Reaser Dontae Johnson, DB Steve Nelson (Chiefs) OLB Jeremiah Attaochu - I was pretty excited about him in the preseason. MLB Jack Cichy (Buccaneers) - I feel like I'm giving up on him too soon, but I'm awash in linebackers. Martrell Spaight, ILB Derrick Johnson (Chiefs) DE Ade Aruna - Couldn't make room to give him more developmental time DT Xavier Williams - Too many good players at the position Hercules Mata'afa - Couldn't make room to give him more developmental time. Michael Bennett (Jaguars) Henry Mondeaux, DT Cavon Walker, DT Last edited by Rain Man; 09-01-2019 at 11:39 PM.. Reason: Added the team labels on the rookies, which I forgot.
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09-01-2019, 10:34 PM	#802
kccrow MVP kccrow's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan	Some tough decisions this year and this is a work in progress. I'm not happy with my D-line depth but overall I think the team is improving. Post-Draft Moves: Accept trade of UDFA CB Mark Fields to Minnesota Vikings for 2020 7th Round Pick Accept trade of FA RB Carlos Hyde to Houston Texans for OL Martinas Rankin Accept trade of 2020 6th Round Pick to New York Jets for LB Darron Lee Draft Tab: 2020 1, 2, 2 f/SF (D. Ford), 3, 4, 5, 7 2021 Additional 7 f/MIN (M. Fields) 2019 Roster OFFENSE (25) QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC) QB - Matt Moore (FA/19 - KC) I've been running 2 QBs for a few years now, so no change here with Mahomes being an ace. RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB) RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA) RB - LeSean McCoy (FA/19 - KC) Still have a good solid stable of backs with Jones and Carson, both starters, and McCoy coming in. FB - Anthony Sherman The tank keeps on truckin. TE - Travis Kelce TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC) TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - NO/PS) Kept a practice squad guy I drafted in Mack over Blake Bell. Not much here outside of Kelce, but hoping the youngsters develop. WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN) WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC) WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE) WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN) WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - KC/PS) Went shy on the receivers this year. Boyd and Watkins are a solid 1-2. Higgins will do his normal solid contribution I'd think. Johnson looks like he might snag the #3 role in Minnesota, so I'm hopeful there. Went with Thompson on the PS in KC as #5 since I really had no other options outside of DAT. I think he'll develop and end up on the 53 at some point. OT - Eric Fisher OT - Mitchell Schwartz OT - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS) Kept 3 tackles but Gray is on the PS in PIT. I kind of expected it because they like to take low-round lineman and develop them for a couple years, but they turn into studs quite often. OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OG - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB) OG - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC) OG - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19) Connor McGovern being moved from G to C by the Broncos threw a huge wrench in my position group here, but Wylie will likely see action and Madison is developing. I'd start McGovern at G on my team. Rankin is a shot in the dark I'm going to keep for now, but I'm not too concerned given my depth on the interior overall. OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - DEN) OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO) OC - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC) OC - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL) I took McCoy because I lacked confidence in Reiter long-term, but now I have 3 guys penciled in as starters to open the season at the position and Bozeman saw snaps last year in BAL. Either way, I have a ton of interior O-line depth and it made it hard to get rid of these guys, thus keeping 11 lineman, when 9 is usually my max. DEFENSE (25) DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF) DL - Xavier Williams (FA/18 - KC) DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU) DL - Joey Ivie (FA/18 - KC) DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - BAL PS) I failed to address D-line in the draft and now I could pay for it. I don't have a single starter on my squad unless Phillips unseats Lotulelei in Buffalo. All my other guys sans Sieler should see significant snaps. Sieler was a surprise cut and stash on the PS by BAL for me after there were talks he could compete to start during the offseason. That moves leaves me gasping for straws on the front. ER - Justin Houston (IND) ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL) ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC) ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG) ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC) ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR) I'm fairly stacked at edge rusher with good veteran talent and good developmental talent behind them. Hopefully, it all works out but Ximines looked really good in the pre-season and so did Kpass. Since Houston was cut and not an expiring contract, I was able to keep him around and he'll start in Indy. LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC) LB - Reggie Ragland (t-BUF/17 - KC) LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC) LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS) LB - Darron Lee (t-NYJ/19) I had to cut Blair Brown after his domestic battery crap and the Jags cutting him, which leaves me with KC's trash and Holcomb. Holcomb looked really solid in pre-season and I think he steals a starting position sooner than later in WAS. CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC) CB - Kendall Fuller (t-WAS/18) CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ) CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN) CB - Morris Claiborne (FA/19 - KC) SF moving Moore to FS, his natural and college position, after an experimental year at CB changed the dynamic of my CB group but I did take Murphy in the 1st and he looks like he'll start by next year. Hill is on suspension to start the year but looked good in his opportunities last season. We know what the rest is. I hung onto Claiborne as depth. DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN) DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC) DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF) DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN) Bates is a stud and the Chiefs' addition of Mathieu helped. Moore moving to his natural FS spot and likely being the starter there gives me a deep group. Hooker looked like a baller in pre-season and Tennessee is gushing about him so far. Could go from crap at Safety to an absolute stud group in 2 years. Unlike with Houston, I let Berry walk. My spirit wasn't feeling him on this roster anymore. SPECIAL TEAMS (3) K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC) P Dustin Colquitt LS James Winchester No sense in messing with greatness. I don't have too many notable cuts, but I'll list the ones that either made the Chiefs roster or I drafted and cut this year. DB Jordan Lucas - I made the trade w/MIA but just not roo LB Ben Niemann - I love him on special teams but I had to keep talent elsewhere DB Dan Sorensen - My safeties look good so he wasn't a must keep RB Darrell Williams - McCoy buried him further down the depth-chart and I already have 2 starters. LB Blair Brown - Drafted him in the 5th two years ago but he got cut after a domestic battery charge. I also showed him the door no matter what the result. CB Tremon Smith - Drafted him just like KC but he's very expendable in his current role, which I doubt lasts much longer in KC either WR Stacy Coley - Drafted him in the 6th two years ago but he couldn't stick with the Jets after his short stint in Minnesota, so project over. Last edited by kccrow; 09-04-2019 at 03:38 AM..
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09-01-2019, 11:31 PM	#803
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Oh, I forgot to mention that I traded my 6th round pick next year for Darron Lee, and I too will take the Mark Fields trade since it was free for us.
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09-02-2019, 09:30 PM	#804
kccrow MVP kccrow's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan	Just wanted to put together how I'm doing so far in this thing... Sure, some recent things will have to shake out. As it stands, looks like I'm pulling about 3 starting caliber players per draft and 1-2 backup/role players. That's not too bad. I still think Madison ends up a starting OG in GB at some point (this is essentially his rookie year) and I have pretty high expectations for my top 5 draft picks in 2019, especially the top 4, after their showing in preseason this year and I believe all become starters by year 2 or 3. Draft Results Tracker to Date Spoiler! 2016 Draft 2(037) Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh (55 CIN) 3(074) KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame (74 KC) 4(099) Joshua Perry, LB, Ohio State (102 LAC) 4(126) Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (144 DEN) 4(129) Matt Judon, ER, Grand Valley State (146 BAL) 5(162) Rashard Higgins, WR, Colorado State (172 CLE) 5(165) Fahn Cooper, OL, Ole Miss (174 SF) 6(178) D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech (178 KC) 7(250) Kalan Reed, CB, Southern Miss (253 TEN) – IR SEA (I cut) 2017 Draft 1(010) Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (10 KC) 2(059) Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova (59 KC) 3(104) Dorian Johnson, OG, Pittsburgh (115 ARZ) 4(132) Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson (142 HOU) 5(148) Blair Brown, LB, Ohio (148 JAX) 5(180) Aaron Jones, RB, Texas El-Paso (182 GB) 6(218) Stacy Coley, WR, Miami (219 MIN) 7(222) Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (224 CLE) – Now w/ ARZ (I cut) 7(245) Christopher Carson, RB, Oklahoma State (249 SEA) 2018 Draft 2(043) Jessie Bates, S, Wake Forest (CIN 52) 3(086) Tarvarius Moore, S, Southern Mississippi (SF 95) 3(095) Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (96 BUF) 4(122) Cole Madison, OL, Washington State (138 GB) 5(159) Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, ER, Oklahoma (LAR 160) 6(196) Tremon Smith, CB, Central Arkansas (KC 198) 6(198) Bradley Bozeman, OC, Alabama (BAL 215) 7(219) Zach Sieler, DE, Ferris State (BAL 238) 7(243) Holton Hill, CB, Texas (MIN CF) 2019 Draft 1(029) Byron Murphy, CB, Washington (ARZ 33) 2(048) Erik McCoy, OC, Texas A&M (NO 48) 3(092) Oshane Ximines, ER, Old Dominion (NYG 95) 4(116) Amani Hooker, S, Iowa (TEN 116) 5(167) Cole Holcomb, LB, North Carolina (WAS 173) 6(201) Derwin Gray, OT, Maryland (PIT 219) 6(214) Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame (NO 231) 7(243) Olabisi Johnson, WR, Colorado State (MIN 247) Starter Primary Backup/Role Player Depth Player Practice Squad Free Agent/Out of League Suspended first 8 Weeks
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02-09-2020, 08:00 PM	#807
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Okay, how did my team do this year? Not as good as Andy's, but that's fine. On offense, I have pro bowl guys at QB, RB, and TE, and likely at LT. That makes for a solid offense. My WRs and one guard position were weak, but all in all it's a strong offense. My defense isn't the same story. I've got a great backfield with two all pros at CB and SS, and solid starters and depth. But my front seven doesn't make a lot of splash plays. They're decent against the run, but can't generate pressure. My special teams is great, of course. All in all, I think this is a playoff team, but not a Super Bowl team. What do others think? QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Easton Stick (Chargers) Nathan Peterman (Raiders) Russell had a great year and was a pro bowler, and my backups sat on the bench, which is ideal. Maybe Stick will start next year since the Chargers need a QB. Peterman is out of the league, so I'll need a backup next year. RB Alvin Kamara (Saints) Damien Williams Lesean McCoy Rashaad Penny (Seahawks) Justin Jackson (Chargers) Kamara had about 1,300 total yards and a pro bowl, so he was RB1. Damien has about 700 as my RB2 and he was great in big games. McCoy, Penny, and Jackson were good niche players, so this unit was very strong. WR James Washington (Steelers) Sammy Watkins Kelvin Harmon (Redskins) Andy Isabella (Cardinals) Donte Moncrief (Jaguars) Washington and Watkins were a talented duo, though they underachieved my expectations (However, Watkins was a GREAT big-game WR). Harmon emerged from the pack as a rookie to become a serviceable #3. Isabella was a huge disappointment, as was Moncrief. This unit was shallow and moderately serviceable. I need a WR1 here. TE Travis Kelce (Chiefs) Isaac Nauta (Lions) Caleb Wilson (Cardinals) Kelce is the best TE in the league and was a pro bowler. He's in essence my WR1. Nauta and Wilson were both rookies who were there to learn. Good starter, no depth. OT Mitchell Schwartz (Browns/Chiefs) Morgan Moses (Redskins) Tyrell Crosby (Lions) I continue to use Schwartz out of position at LT, but he can do it and is the best RT in the league (even though he wasn't a pro bowler). Moses is a dependable right tackle. Crosby is a backup LT. This is actually a pretty good unit. G Cody Whitehair (Bears) Michael Jordan (Bengals) Andrew Wylie Wyatt Teller (Browns) This unit is deep, but I need more quality. Whitehair is adequate, and the other three all got action, but none took the position. I need an upgrade here. C Austin Reiter Reiter was great. A team could win a Super Bowl with Reiter at center. K Harrison Butker Great clutch kicker. Should have been named to the pro bowl even if he didn't play in it. P Dustin Colquitt Former MVP. LS James Winchester Highly reliable. Messed up one snap all year. FS Jordan Poyer (Bills) Reshad Jones (Dolphins) SS Tyrann Matthieu Poyer is a solid free safety, and Mathieu is an all pro at strong safety. No depth, but this is a good pair of starters. After nine years as a starter, Reshad Jones had an injury-plagued year and was in the tub for most of the season. CB Marcus Peters (Rams) Bashaud Breeland Desmond King (Chargers) Kendall Fuller Really good CB group. Peters was an all pro, and Breeland was a solid outside starter. King and Fuller are both great nickel backs. I like this group. OLB Damien Wilson AJ Klein (Saints) Jaylon Ferguson (Ravens) Zach Brown (Eagles) Darron Lee Sutton Smith (Steelers) Not necessarily a strength, though they're generally functional. Wilson and Klein were consistent starters, and Ferguson is an ascending backup. MLB Anthony Hitchens Reggie Ragland Ben Niemann We all know these guys. Hitchens on 1st and 2nd down, Niemann on 3rd down, and Ragland in short yardage. No stars, but functional. DE Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings) Alex Okafor Taco Charlton (Cowboys) Dorance Armstrong (Cowboys) Anthony Nelson (Buccaneers) Boom! Odenigbo came out of nowhere to become a good pass rushing lineman. Okafor came in as a free agent and played well before his injury. Charlton is the best of an underachieving group of youngsters in the backup spots. I keep hoping for development here. This is a weak spot overall considering that Odenigbo is small for the position. DT Andrew Billings (Bengals) Brandon Williams (Ravens) Maurice Hurst (Raiders) Star Lotulelei (Bills) Joey Ivie I have a solid but unspectacular rotation here. Billings and Williams are good starters, with Lotulelei rotating in and Hurst playing on passing downs. Overall, I think they're average for the league. Last edited by Rain Man; 02-12-2020 at 05:08 PM.. Reason: I missed the back half of a parentheses set and my universe was unbalanced.
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02-14-2020, 03:58 PM	#808
kccrow MVP kccrow's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan	Your defense is in far better shape overall than mine. I think you need more explosiveness at WR and a better pass rush, but looks like a solid roster that would be a playoff team. QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC) QB - Matt Moore (FA/19 - KC) Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL and Moore saved the season. Can't do much better. RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB) RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA) RB - LeSean McCoy (FA/19 - KC) I had as dynamic of a 1-2-3 punch at running back as you could ask for. Jones led the way as my all-purpose back with 1,086 yards on the ground, 474 receiving and 19 total TDs. Carson was no slouch either, rushing for 1,230 yards and receiving for 266 more and 9 total TDs. McCoy was an early season producer but just icing on this rushing attack with 465 yards rushing, 181 receiving, and 5 TDs. FB - Anthony Sherman The tank keeps on truckin. TE - Travis Kelce TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC) TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - NO/PS) Good thing Kelce was a 2nd team All-Pro because Yelder did little and Mack actually ended up on KC's practice squad. WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN) WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC) WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE) WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN) WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - KC/PS) Boyd had another top-notch year for me with 1,046 yards and 5 TDs. Watkins came up big in big moments. My reliable #3 in Higgins turned into a bench warmer that may be on his way out in Cleveland. Thankfully, Johnson started producing this year as a rookie and finished with 31 receptions for 294 yards and 3 TDs. Thompson didn't make it in KC and ended up over in Seattle and is on a reserves/futures contract. I might need to add a couple guys this offseason. OT - Eric Fisher OT - Mitchell Schwartz OT - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS) Fisher and Schwartz are a great duo. Gray spent the year on the practice squad and re-signed to a reserves/futures contract with Pittsburgh so all is not lost yet. OG - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL) OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OG - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB) OG - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC) OG - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19) Bozeman moved from reserve center to starting LG in Baltimore this year and looks to be developing nicely. My late-round flier looks pretty solid at the moment. LDT had his moments but wasn't great. Wyle and Rankin are solid reserve guys. I'm not sure what will happen with Cole Madison, but his future is up in the air at the moment. OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO) OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - DEN) OC - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC) I have 3 starting centers on one roster, which really helps my depth and the ability to slide a guy to OG if need be. My 2nd round guy, McCoy, looked like he has the makings of a future All-Pro. McGovern is solid and Reiter is adequate. DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF) DL - Xavier Williams (FA/18 - KC) DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU) DL - Joey Ivie (FA/18 - KC) DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - BAL PS) Losing Phillips the 3rd week of the season really hurt an already bad defensive line. Losing Xavier Williams made it almost unbearable. Watkins was a reserve that had 23 tackles and 1 sack. Ivie saw action in 3 games and didn't do a thing for Tennessee. Sieler ended up bouncing to Miami mid-year and ended up seeing action in 3 games, including 1 start, with 8 tackles and 1 sack. I have some major work to do here in the offseason. ER - Justin Houston (IND) ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL) ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC) ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG) ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC) ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR) Houston continues to be a good player with 44 tackles and 11 sacks. Judon is much the same, just a terror on the edge with 54 tackles and 9.5 sacks. Okafor chipped in 22 tackles and 5 sacks, Ximines looked like he'll have a future with 25 tackles and 4.5 sacks, Kpass had 29 tackles and 4 sacks, and Okoronkwo got some field time in 10 games with 7 tackles and 1.5 sacks. I'm still doing more than fine on the edge, but Houston and Judon aren't getting any younger. LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC) LB - Reggie Ragland (t-BUF/17 - KC) LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC) LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS) LB - Darron Lee (t-NYJ/19) We know this group, primarily. Highlighting my lone addition, Holcomb took over a starting ILB spot early this year and finished with 105 tackles and 1 sack. He's going to be solid for a while I think. Time to add around him. CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC) CB - Kendall Fuller (t-WAS/18) CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ) CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN) CB - Morris Claiborne (FA/19 - KC) Byron Murphy ended up starting and having 78 tackles, 10 pd, and 1 int in year one. He had his growing pains and was targeted alot, but taking that abuse and surviving as a rookie means he should only become better and better, especially working with Peterson. We had good returns from Breeland and Fuller resurrected the end of the season playing some safety. Hill didn't get to build much on his strong rookie year as he spent half the season suspended and finished with 13 tackles, 1 pd and 0 int. Depending on what happens with Breeland, I may need to add again early on this year. DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN) DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC) DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF) DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN) Bates was an absolute stud once again at FS with 100 tackles, 9 pd, and 3 int. Mathieu was the heart and soul at SS with 75 tackles, 2 sacks, 12 pd, and 4 int. Moore was a solid reserve with 3 starts and had 25 tackles and 3 pd. Hooker was also a reserve that finished with 19 tackles. K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC) P Dustin Colquitt LS James Winchester We know this group, very good but Colquitt should probably be replaced. Overall, my offense is nearly untouchable. Solid line. Great QB. Great running game. Pro-Bowl level WR1. All-Pro TE. It's pretty special. Defensively, much to be desired. I had a strong pass rush and outstanding safeties, but everything in between was fairly devoid of talent. I can't complain too much about my LBs but an upgrade from Hitchens is needed. The defensive tackle position has to be addressed and CB could be better. Honestly, I think this would be a Super Bowl team if I had better defensive tackles. I think teams would have gashed me inside.
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02-16-2020, 08:54 PM	#809
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Other than your defensive line, your team's a powerhouse, kccrow. You've been drafting really well.
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02-23-2020, 11:24 AM	#810
chiefscafan Veteran chiefscafan's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA	Ok catching up my roster I’ll take all free agents and our draft last year Also Frank Clark trade I’ll update rest tonight LA Cobras Roster ready for 2017 Draft 2015 Draft: 1-18: OLB Bud Dupree Kentucky 2-49: OG. Ali Marpet Hobart Don't do trade up in third 3-80: WR. Ty Montgomery Stanford 3-98: QB Bryce Petty Baylor 4-117: WR Dandre Smelter Georgia Tech Accept Ben Grubs Trade 5-172: DE/DT Michael Bennett Ohio State 5-173: DE Anthony Chickillo Miami 6-200: DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches Southern Miss 6-217: WR Austin Hill Arizona 7-233: OT La'el Collins LSU Ok I had kelcie McCray but I accepted the trade to seattle. I'm also gonna accept the bucs trade down so here are my picks 1-28 (28th): Myles Jack ILB/OLB UCLA 3-11 (74th): Kivaree Russel CB Notre Dame 4-8 (106th): Eric Muarry CB/S Minnesota 4-28 (126th): Demarcus Robinson WR Florida 5-25 (162nd): Kevin Hogan QB Stanford 5-28 (165th): Kyle Murphy OT Stanford 6-28 (203rd): Mike Thomas WR Southern Miss 7-28 (249th: Vernon Adams QB Oregon Ok. LA Cobras draft 2017 We accept A and B trade reject C and TE wasn't on our team 1st: QB: Pat Mahomes Texas Tech 2nd: DE: Tanoh Kpassagnon Villanova 3rd: RB: Kareem Hunt Toledo 5th: DT: Caleb Brantley Florida 5th: WR: Robert Davis Georgia State 6th: WR: Gabe Marks Washington State 6th: OT:Chad Wheeler USC 2018 Draft 2:52: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn 3:86: Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama 4:122: Maurice Hurst , NT, Michigan 5:159: Kyle Fitts, DE, Utah 6:196: Tremon Smith, CB, Central Arkansas 6:209: Bradley Bozeman, OC, Alabama 7:233: Jordan Mailata, OT, Australia �� 7:240: Will Clapp, OC, LSU 7:243: Hercules Mata’afa, DT/DE\OLB, Washington State 2019 draft 2019 2 Mecole Hardman WR 2019 2 Juan Thornhill. S CB 2019 3 Khalen Saunders DT 2019 6 Rashad Fenton. CB 2019 6 Darwin Thompson. RB 2019 7 Nick Allegretti. OG QB 15 Pat Mahomes 8 Matt Moore 9 Kyle Shirmur HB 28 Mark Ingram 27 Kareem Hunt 34 Darwin Thompson 31 Darrel Williams FB 42 Sherman, Anthony WR 14 Sammy Watkins 17 Mecloe Hardman 11 Demarcus Robinson 13 Byron Pringle 12 Gherig Dieter 87 Travis Kelce 81 Blake Bell T 71 Mitchell Schwartz 78 La’el Collins 74 Martinas Rankin 69 Chad Wheeler G 66 Jackson, Gabe 75 Bradley Bozeman 74 Ali Marpert 76 Lauren Duvernay-Tardif 61 Steven Wisnewski 65 Will Clapp C 62 Austin Reiter 77 Nick AllGretti 65 Will Clapp K 7 Harrison Butker P 2 Dustin Colquit LS 41 Winchester, james FS 32 Tyrann Mathieu 22 Juan Thornhill 49 Daniel Sorrenson 23 Armani Watts SS 36 Ronnie Harrison 32 Tyrann Mathieu CB 33 Carlton Davis 35 Chavarius Ward 21 Bashaud Breeland 27 Rashad Fenton OLB 48 Bud Dupree 43 AJ Klein 53 Anthony Hitchens 54 Damien Wilson MLB 44 Myles Jack 59 Reggie Ragland 56 Ben Niemann DE 57 Frank Clark 90 Emmanuel Ogbah 94 Terrell Suggs 52 Demone Harris DT 73 Maurice Hurst 99 Khalen Saunders 64 Mike Pennel IR LB / DE Hercules Mata’afa OT Jordan Mailata DE. Breeland Speaks DE. Tim Ward WR. Joe Fortson TE. John Lovett WR. Marcus Kemp DT. Caleb Brantley Here you go final 53 man roster took a while but I did it. Collins at LT and Mitchell Schwartz at RT wish I would’ve drafted Eric fisher now but hindsight is 2020. Love my rbs plus my D is probably better than the chiefs. Too many guards If this were real sure my team would trade one of our four starting guards for a quality LT by now. Draft needs RB, WR, LT, CB best draft was 2018 Davis, Harrison, hurst, Bozeman are all starters Last edited by chiefscafan; 03-09-2020 at 08:36 AM..
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