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09-15-2014, 03:17 PM | #766 |
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09-15-2014, 03:32 PM | #767 | |
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But a shit ton was wrong. Whipping/whopping/popping your kids or whatever the **** you want to call it is one of those things that IS wrong. |
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09-15-2014, 03:35 PM | #768 |
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09-15-2014, 03:36 PM | #769 |
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09-15-2014, 03:38 PM | #770 |
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09-15-2014, 03:40 PM | #771 |
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09-15-2014, 03:47 PM | #772 |
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09-15-2014, 03:48 PM | #773 | |
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EVen these so called "studies" you claim to have read that you claim all support your "opinion" even have a problem defining the difference between beating and corporal punishment. You are (like most ignorant people) simplifying an extremely complex situation NO ONE sane is advocating "beating" their child....Its the definition of acceptable corporal punishment that people are discussing. I have repeatedly said I am not in favor of child abuse or anything against the law. The fact you feel the need to build this straw man to knock down shows the weakness of your position. I could undersdtand you saying " I would never lay a hand on my child" Thats reasonable... Then you have me at "I can understand others laying a hand on their children, even though I am personally against it" I am with you on those two statements 100% I am also with you on "if you beat / abuse your child, you are WRONG" or "if you use a tool and leave marks, it is wrong" Where you lose me is you seem to think that every single person using a spoon or paddle, even if they do not inflict lasting pain or marks with it, even if it might actually be LESS painful and easier to make a loud noise but ensure no marks or damage.....that every person who choses this route is "wrong" or "bad".... My argument is simply that it doesnt matter if you use a belt, hand, switch......or no spanking at all...You can still abuse a child without any of these things...and you can use a paddle and NOT abuse your child. Your 'black and white' view of things is what is outdated / uneducated...NOT the paddle. |
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09-15-2014, 03:51 PM | #774 | |
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And I think each kid is his own case. My brother wasn't a kid you had to spank for him to listen. I was. I was a little ****-head as a kid... |
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09-15-2014, 03:52 PM | #775 | |
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Just because you don't agree doesn't make it dumb. Like I predicted before, this is CP so everything has to be extreme. Because I am not totally outraged and don't think AP needs to go to prison then I am pro child abuse right. My view is this and you can't really dispute it though you will make statements on your opinion as if its fact.
But hey since my views don't align with the libtards in this thread then lets make sure to ridicule typos or throw out stupid insults in typical CP manner. |
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09-15-2014, 03:54 PM | #776 | |
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You seem like an outstanding parent, don't misinterpret me...i just think shitty jobs are things that build character. |
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09-15-2014, 03:55 PM | #777 |
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09-15-2014, 04:23 PM | #778 | |
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I've had about 35 jobs in my life and after each one I said "I'll never do X again." |
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09-15-2014, 04:24 PM | #779 | ||
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Those that talk about child abuse will come out and DEFINE child abuse. They will for the most part exclude spanking, and if they don't, they clearly say, "Spanking is included in this term." Quote:
Respond to this post. That's where I'm drawing a line between spanking and whipping. I also got tired of identifying the term as "disciplining kids with an object" so I said "beating" just once, and you freaked out over that. I'm pretty sure that's the only time I've ever done that in this thread. I'm not being ignorant or using a straw man. I KNOW what the definitions are, and I think I've proven that over the hundreds of posts in this thread. The rest of this is more hogwash of "You don't know, man! You can't judge X behavior!" I absolutely can. I demonstrated my reasoning. Nobody has yet to come up with an argument against it other than "My how very presumptuous of you to judge how people raise their children!" You're the only one thus far to bring up something legit for me to consider, which is "does using an implement actually hurt more than an open hand?" Obviously you can make it so the paddle or spoon doesn't hurt. Do parents who use those objects actually do that? I seriously ****ing doubt it. Why use those objects in the first place, then? Not using your full strength in a swat or whip doesn't mean you're using it responsibly or effectively. In the case of paddles/spoons/dildos whatever the **** someone wants to hit your kids with, the psychological damage IS most of the damage, even when pain is caused. AP's son's wounds will heal. How he looks at his father and himself as a human being will not. It's going to be different. |
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09-15-2014, 04:41 PM | #780 | |
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Feel free to keep making straw men though. Theyre much easier to battle. |
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