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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****
They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:27 PM   #7621
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I kinda agree, but then I look ar Toney getting about half the snaps of Moore. There is no way he is not a better athlete and player than Moore, and no way he's dumber or less reliable. Nagy just doesn't seem interested in what these guys can and can't do. Everyone is doing a bit of everything and the most inept, lowest ceiling guys are getting the lion's share.
Reid already came out and said that they were limiting Toney's snaps to keep him healthy. I don't like it but it is what it is.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:28 PM   #7622
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Does WRBC work without an elite Kelce (or no Kelce at all if he retires)?

I don’t see it…. need a go to guy.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:29 PM   #7623
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I miss Tyreek Hill so much.
Hell I miss Juju. He’d be an immense improvement. I’m still holding out hope the Pats will cut him a la Suggs a few years back.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:31 PM   #7624
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Hell I miss Juju. He’d be an immense improvement. I’m still holding out hope the Pats will cut him a la Suggs a few years back.
I find myself fantasizing about Byron Pringle.

This sucks.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:32 PM   #7625
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Hell I miss Juju. He’d be an immense improvement. I’m still holding out hope the Pats will cut him a la Suggs a few years back.
They aren't taking a $10 million dollar dead cap hit this year and cutting him.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:34 PM   #7626
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You never stop giving Mahomes weapons. Defense doesn't win Championships. Mahomes does.

Yet so many here convinced themselves to believe in a philosophical shift in which, instead of highlighting our biggest strength, we robbed it of resources.

A stark reminder for those who forgot the yester years, that defense is great, but they're no replacement for a franchise Qb with weapons.

NEVER.STOP.GIVING.MAHOMES.REAL.WEAPONS.

This cannot be expressed enough.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:42 PM   #7627
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It's kind of astounding that since Mahomes has been the starter, the only offensive skill players that have been developed in the system has been Pacheco and Rice.

Gray is a non-factor. Powell is Junior Hemingway without the expended draft capital. Ross is Tyreek's legal issues but without the om field production and expended draft capital.

Not to relitigate past arguments here, but this is the surrounding cast that actively holds back the QB regardless of skill when you consider Kelce's age / lingering injury status.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:47 PM   #7628
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It's kind of astounding that since Mahomes has been the starter, the only offensive skill players that have been developed in the system has been Pacheco and Rice.

Gray is a non-factor. Powell is Junior Hemingway without the expended draft capital. Ross is Tyreek's legal issues but without the om field production and expended draft capital.

Not to relitigate past arguments here, but this is the surrounding cast that actively holds back the QB regardless of skill when you consider Kelce's age / lingering injury status.
Gray is behind the best TE of all time and was a 5th round pick. He's exceeded expectations. He just doesn't get targeted like he should.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:48 PM   #7629
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You never stop giving Mahomes weapons. Defense doesn't win Championships. Mahomes does.

Yet so many here convinced themselves to believe in a philosophical shift in which, instead of highlighting our biggest strength, we robbed it of resources.

A stark reminder for those who forgot the yester years, that defense is great, but they're no replacement for a franchise Qb with weapons.

NEVER.STOP.GIVING.MAHOMES.REAL.WEAPONS.

This cannot be expressed enough.

The only way to stop Mahomes is to remove most of the OL (SB Tampa) or remove all his weapons.

Veach decided to do the remove all the weapons this year.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:49 PM   #7630
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KC should get good WRs no matter the type and adjust accordingly. Having a specific prototype and failing to look outside the box is how they end up drafting slot receivers year after year.

I’d take a Michael Pittman or or Tee Higgins type in a heartbeat, lord knows none of their current WRs can line up out wide and consistently beat man coverage (including Rice).
On a big $$$ investment fit matters.

Tee Higgins doesn't match our QB or offense.


He's a good player and would help but would not max his value here.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:50 PM   #7631
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The only way to stop Mahomes is to remove most of the OL (SB Tampa) or remove all his weapons.

Veach decided to do the remove all the weapons this year.
How exactly did he "remove all the weapons"?

By not re-signing JuJu?

You're so commited to your narrative that you will use the most ridiculous framing imaginable to support it.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:52 PM   #7632
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Veach didn't remove his weapons.

MVS was serviceable last year and has looked like shit this year.
Toney got hurt in camp.
Moore never took a step forward.
Rice has looked good when he's gotten chances.
James has been hurt.
Watson has been hit or miss this year.

There were people that said before this year started that this WR group had a low floor and a high ceiling. We're seeing the low floor right now.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:53 PM   #7633
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Gray is behind the best TE of all time and was a 5th round pick. He's exceeded expectations. He just doesn't get targeted like he should.
As of now Kelce/Gray 2023 look to outpace Kelce/Fasano 2014 which a) surprises me b) was my first thought for a comparison given the lack of receiving talent common to both years.. granted Jamaal is/was obviously a better overall player in Reid's offense compared to Pacheco.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:55 PM   #7634
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Let's all hope that Rice takes over by the end of the season.

If that happens we will have a shot.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:59 PM   #7635
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Who was that guy we traded for a bag of dicks in preseason? Pretty sure he’d be an upgrade right now
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