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Old 11-23-2020, 11:15 AM  
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Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite
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NFL odds: After Sunday night, Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite

Frank Schwab 2 hrs ago

We can cease and desist with any debate about someone other than Patrick Mahomes being the NFL MVP favorite.

You’ll hear people argue that Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, Alvin Kamara or anyone else should be “in the conversation,” but the only real talk is that the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback is the overwhelming favorite until further notice. Everyone else is vying for NFL offensive player of the year, though Mahomes should probably win that too.

Sunday night’s heroics, leading a game-winning drive over the Las Vegas Raiders everyone knew was coming, solidified Mahomes’ position. He’s the best player in football and he’s having a phenomenal year.

The odds at BetMGM reflect that.

Mahomes is -118 to win MVP at BetMGM. Next on the list is Wilson at +350. Aaron Rodgers is +550 and nobody else is less than 12-to-1.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:03 AM   #736
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And Mahomes has:
More Wins
Completions
Yards
Yards per Game
Yards per Attempt
Rushing Yards
Rushing Yards Per Game
Rushing Yards Per Attempt
First Downs
8 Road Wins (Best in Chiefs History) against 6 Playoff Teams
10 Game win streak against a harder schedule than Rodgers
More 4th Quarter Comebacks
Better record and stats against the same teams.


When someone brings up rushing yards per attempt to compare 2 QBs, it's not even worth it.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:08 AM   #737
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When someone brings up rushing yards per attempt to compare 2 QBs, it's not even worth it.
Like bringing up Completion % without actually mentioning Completions?

Last year's MVP won because of Rushing ability.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:12 AM   #738
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Like bringing up Completion % without actually mentioning Completions?

Last year's MVP won because of Rushing ability.
Why would I need to bring up completions when bringing up completions percentage?
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:22 AM   #739
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Why would I need to bring up completions when bringing up completions percentage?
I listed the stats that Mahomes is leading Rodgers. You are the one choosing to discount Wins, Rushing, Yardage and Cherry Pick all the other stats you want to use. Keep rooting for Rodgers.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:25 AM   #740
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Rodgers

3 losses

1 to TB who we beat. Mahomes shined Rodgers 2 INTS playoff team.

1 loss to Minnesota at home

1 loss to Indy with INT Playoff team

2 comeback drives

Havent clinched no1 seed yet.

Mahomes.

1 loss while scoring 32 points. 1 Int

14-1.

Beat TB, NO. Miami, Baltimore, Buffalo. All playoff teams on the road.

Common opp

Mahomes. 5-0.

15 TDs/ 1 Int
141-217 64.9%
1577 yardd 315.4 avg
15 rushes 92 yards
Sacked 9 times
143 points. 28.6

Rodgers 4-1.
11 TDs/ 2 ints
107-163. 65.5%
1196 yards 239.2 YPg
10 rushes 56 yards 1 TD
Sacked 10 times
136 points 27.2.

Mahomes
5-0 playoff teams

Rodgers
3-2

Mahomes last 6 games

2053. Yards 342.16 YPg

13 TDs. 4 ints

170-249. 68.2%

10 times sacked

27 rushes 137 rads

2190 total yards. 365 yards a game

3-0 on the road Vs playoff teams

2-0 Vs divisional oppenents. 1 on the road. And 1 with winning recird
Division games are always the toughest

Despite having our o line decimated with injury.

Hmmmm yeah Mahomes played bad the last 6 games


Yeah. Rodgers put an ass whopping on a 1-14 team where he had to come back from behind to win. Throwing 1 INt

Losing to the 6-9 Vikings at home

Losing to 2 playoff teams on the road. 1 team we beat cleanly.

Mahomes best 5 playoff teams on the road because that’s what MVPs do
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:29 AM   #741
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^ But Completion Percentage!!!!!
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:37 AM   #742
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I listed the stats that Mahomes is leading Rodgers. You are the one choosing to discount Wins, Rushing, Yardage and Cherry Pick all the other stats you want to use. Keep rooting for Rodgers.
Yeah IMMMM the one cherry picking stats.

Yeah completion %, yards, TD, and INTs aren't the consensus main QB metrics or anything. Nah let's compare their rush yards per rush!
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:45 AM   #743
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Yeah IMMMM the one cherry picking stats.

Yeah completion %, yards, TD, and INTs aren't the consensus main QB metrics or anything. Nah let's compare their rush yards per rush!
Picking 1 thing out of the list I posted IS cherry picking.

I like Mahomes and hope he wins- sorry you have such a ****ing problem with it. I am a Chiefs fan- not a Packer fan. I like Mahomes and not Rodgers. Does that clear things up for you?
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Old 12-28-2020, 02:15 AM   #744
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W/L is not a relevant QB stat.
If you look at the history of how this thing is given out, it’s probably the most relevant QB stat there is.
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Mahomes leads in DYAR, YAR, DVOA, VOA, PAA, and EPA among other advanced QB stats.

He remains the best quarterback in the sport and certainly the most valuable to his team and it isn’t all that close (regardless of whether a group of writers choose to give this year’s MVP to someone else which I’m not convinced yet they will).
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Old 12-28-2020, 02:22 AM   #746
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Rodgers is 38 years old and putting up incredible numbers.

The PFWAA love a good story so he’ll be the MVP.

Mahomes has 13 more years before he’s 38 to win a few more MVP’s.
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Like bringing up Completion % without actually mentioning Completions?



Last year's MVP won because of Rushing ability.
Yeah, but he also led the NFL in TD passes. I am not saying running isn't the main reason he won MVP, but leading the league in TD passes can't be ignored just to strengthen the narrative that Jackson is only a runner. I mean, it's a pretty important stat for any other MVP.

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Old 12-28-2020, 02:47 AM   #748
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Rodgers will win now but it’s embarrassing that he’s padded his stats while only beating 2 teams with a winning record.
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Rodgers will win now but it’s embarrassing that he’s padded his stats while only beating 2 teams with a winning record.
Holy ****. Can that be right? The only teams he’s beat with winning records are the saints and Titans? What?
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Holy ****. Can that be right? The only teams he’s beat with winning records are the saints and Titans? What?

Those are the facts. Makes me sick.
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