8/5/24 Chiefs Training Camp Thread

[Buehler445]

Ready or not.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

Flexibility seems to be the thing here.

Chenal isn't as fluid of an athlete in space as Gay was/is.

Chenal is much more of a LB that is comfortable physically taking on a OL than he is reading and reacting in space.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.

Yea Chenal isn't why Gay isn't here, Dru Tranquil and Cam Jones are how that happened.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.

The elements that make up RAS are worth noting. The composite scores are dumb.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea Chenal isn't why Gay isn't here, Dru Tranquil and Cam Jones are how that happened.

Little of A, little of B.

Without Chenal OR Tranquill, they're gonna need Gay back, IMO. The two of those combined can present most of what Gay could do. Chenal has the athleticism and straight line speed that Gay had, Tranquill the agility.

They used Gay pretty interchangeably between the Sam and the Will. Tranquill can't really play the Sam and I don't think you want Chenal playing the Will. If you don't have either guy, Gay fills the other side of Bolton.

But with both and more creative scheme/sub use, you can probably get what he gave you out of those two players.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.

Yeah Gay could move. Dude brought energy too. I don’t know if the team responded to the way he played with his hair on fire, but the dude played with abandon. Chenal I think can do similar things, but to just write off Gay is probably selling what he brought a little short.

At the end of the year if you told me they missed Gay or the LB corps was several clicks better through better gap discipline, neither would surprise me.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.

Yeah in space he was really good. Chenal is more stiff. Gay’s lateral agility and elite closing speed was very good so far.

He was such a sneaky weapon, especially on the pass rushes Spags would float in from time to time.

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

faster 40, faster 20 yard split, faster 10 yard split, faster 3 cone, faster shuttle.

The splits are accurate, but Gay had the faster 40. He ran a 4.46, Chenal was at 4.53. Also Chenal's shuttle and 3 cone times are Pro Day numbers.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Even with that RAS score they are completely different plays. Chenal has great workout numbers but he isn't incredibly comfortable in space.

Chenal is just strong. I swear I've heard people say he's the strongest player on the team, pound for pound. You could put him on the line and he'd hold his own against guys 50 pounds heavier than him.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.

The RAS chart is easy on the eyes and very digestible for a quick snapshot of a guy.

The actual RAS score is pretty dumb.

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Chenal is just strong. I swear I've heard people say he's the strongest player on the team, pound for pound. You could put him on the line and he'd hold his own against guys 50 pounds heavier than him.

Spags said that.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Jamie

The splits are accurate, but Gay had the faster 40. He ran a 4.46, Chenal was at 4.53. Also Chenal's shuttle and 3 cone times are Pro Day numbers.

for some reason, I flipped those in my head

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yeah Gay could move. Dude brought energy too. I don’t know if the team responded to the way he played with his hair on fire, but the dude played with abandon. Chenal I think can do similar things, but to just write off Gay is probably selling what he brought a little short.

At the end of the year if you told me they missed Gay or the LB corps was several clicks better through better gap discipline, neither would surprise me.

I don't think we're missing Gay. He was just wildly inconsistent and for as many good games as he had he had 1 or 2 where he was just miles off and misreading everything. Great athlete, and occasionally great player. I liked him and I think he had immense potential, but there's nothing he brought regularly I think won't be replaced.

[Megatron96]

Read that Gruden was at practice today as well? Still no actual confirmation that he's somehow on the staff though, right?