Sleep Apnea...

[DJJasonp]

When I use it: I get better sleep and wake up more clear-headed and less tired

When I dont use it: the exact opposite

You cant undervalue the importance of quality sleep.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

When I use it: I get better sleep and wake up more clear-headed and less tired

When I dont use it: the exact opposite

You cant undervalue the importance of quality sleep.

That's what I am looking forward to.

Right now I can wake up and feel like I got a good sleep and then 15 minutes later feel like I haven't slept in days.

Most nights is waking up every couple of hours gasping for air and then struggling to get back to sleep.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

When I use it: I get better sleep and wake up more clear-headed and less tired

When I dont use it: the exact opposite

You cant undervalue the importance of quality sleep.

ditto

[Shaid]

Did a sleep study and they said I had moderate apnea but it didn't show up until the later part of the test so it was a study with no CPAP on. I used a CPAP machine for months and really couldn't sleep so after 4 hours with it on, it would usually come off so I could actually sleep. When they reviewed my data it showed me with zero or 1 episode per hour while using it which they said was impossible. I said it wasn't impossible because I wasn't actually sleeping most of the time. They sent me in for another study with the CPAP from the start. It showed zero apnea the whole night and I barely slept. They of course said I slept well according to their data. It was only pushing air at a 5, maybe up to 10 at max.

What really became apparent to me was the CPAP forced me to keep my mouth shut. If my mouth stayed shut I wouldn't snore or have apnea. The problem was it also forces air into your lungs so it made it harder to sleep without it because it was basically training my body to not breathe in and that it would do the breathing for me. Not a good thing in my opinion.

I slept with it for a few more weeks after the second study before finally returning it. It took a few weeks for my body to get used to not having it since it had been trained to just let the machine breathe for me but after that I was fine. I keep my mouth shut while sleeping and my watch monitors my oxygen levels while sleeping and also has a snoring monitor. If I end up having it return, I'll probably do a chin strap or mouth piece to keep my mouth shut instead. I feel like training your body to not breathe on it's own is dangerous. My doctor told me before my sleep study that he had a person who went on vacation and didn't bring his with him and he never woke up because of oxygen deprivation. I blame that on the CPAP training his body not to breathe on it's own. What if your power goes out one day? I know they work well for some people but my experience was not a good one and I won't go back unless I have no other choice.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Shaid

Did a sleep study and they said I had moderate apnea but it didn't show up until the later part of the test so it was a study with no CPAP on. I used a CPAP machine for months and really couldn't sleep so after 4 hours with it on, it would usually come off so I could actually sleep. When they reviewed my data it showed me with zero or 1 episode per hour while using it which they said was impossible. I said it wasn't impossible because I wasn't actually sleeping most of the time. They sent me in for another study with the CPAP from the start. It showed zero apnea the whole night and I barely slept. They of course said I slept well according to their data. It was only pushing air at a 5, maybe up to 10 at max.

What really became apparent to me was the CPAP forced me to keep my mouth shut. If my mouth stayed shut I wouldn't snore or have apnea. The problem was it also forces air into your lungs so it made it harder to sleep without it because it was basically training my body to not breathe in and that it would do the breathing for me. Not a good thing in my opinion.

I slept with it for a few more weeks after the second study before finally returning it. It took a few weeks for my body to get used to not having it since it had been trained to just let the machine breathe for me but after that I was fine. I keep my mouth shut while sleeping and my watch monitors my oxygen levels while sleeping and also has a snoring monitor. If I end up having it return, I'll probably do a chin strap or mouth piece to keep my mouth shut instead. I feel like training your body to not breathe on it's own is dangerous. My doctor told me before my sleep study that he had a person who went on vacation and didn't bring his with him and he never woke up because of oxygen deprivation. I blame that on the CPAP training his body not to breathe on it's own. What if your power goes out one day? I know they work well for some people but my experience was not a good one and I won't go back unless I have no other choice.

This is an interesting perspective. Hadn't thought of the "training" aspect of this, but now you've freaked me out and I'll probably be even more resistant when the doc tells me I should try a CPAP.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Shaid

Did a sleep study and they said I had moderate apnea but it didn't show up until the later part of the test so it was a study with no CPAP on. I used a CPAP machine for months and really couldn't sleep so after 4 hours with it on, it would usually come off so I could actually sleep. When they reviewed my data it showed me with zero or 1 episode per hour while using it which they said was impossible. I said it wasn't impossible because I wasn't actually sleeping most of the time. They sent me in for another study with the CPAP from the start. It showed zero apnea the whole night and I barely slept. They of course said I slept well according to their data. It was only pushing air at a 5, maybe up to 10 at max.

What really became apparent to me was the CPAP forced me to keep my mouth shut. If my mouth stayed shut I wouldn't snore or have apnea. The problem was it also forces air into your lungs so it made it harder to sleep without it because it was basically training my body to not breathe in and that it would do the breathing for me. Not a good thing in my opinion.

I slept with it for a few more weeks after the second study before finally returning it. It took a few weeks for my body to get used to not having it since it had been trained to just let the machine breathe for me but after that I was fine. I keep my mouth shut while sleeping and my watch monitors my oxygen levels while sleeping and also has a snoring monitor. If I end up having it return, I'll probably do a chin strap or mouth piece to keep my mouth shut instead. I feel like training your body to not breathe on it's own is dangerous. My doctor told me before my sleep study that he had a person who went on vacation and didn't bring his with him and he never woke up because of oxygen deprivation. I blame that on the CPAP training his body not to breathe on it's own. What if your power goes out one day? I know they work well for some people but my experience was not a good one and I won't go back unless I have no other choice.

This is false.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Shaid

Did a sleep study and they said I had moderate apnea but it didn't show up until the later part of the test so it was a study with no CPAP on. I used a CPAP machine for months and really couldn't sleep so after 4 hours with it on, it would usually come off so I could actually sleep. When they reviewed my data it showed me with zero or 1 episode per hour while using it which they said was impossible. I said it wasn't impossible because I wasn't actually sleeping most of the time. They sent me in for another study with the CPAP from the start. It showed zero apnea the whole night and I barely slept. They of course said I slept well according to their data. It was only pushing air at a 5, maybe up to 10 at max.

What really became apparent to me was the CPAP forced me to keep my mouth shut. If my mouth stayed shut I wouldn't snore or have apnea. The problem was it also forces air into your lungs so it made it harder to sleep without it because it was basically training my body to not breathe in and that it would do the breathing for me. Not a good thing in my opinion.

I slept with it for a few more weeks after the second study before finally returning it. It took a few weeks for my body to get used to not having it since it had been trained to just let the machine breathe for me but after that I was fine. I keep my mouth shut while sleeping and my watch monitors my oxygen levels while sleeping and also has a snoring monitor. If I end up having it return, I'll probably do a chin strap or mouth piece to keep my mouth shut instead. I feel like training your body to not breathe on it's own is dangerous. My doctor told me before my sleep study that he had a person who went on vacation and didn't bring his with him and he never woke up because of oxygen deprivation. I blame that on the CPAP training his body not to breathe on it's own. What if your power goes out one day? I know they work well for some people but my experience was not a good one and I won't go back unless I have no other choice.

Lulz. That is so not true. It does not train you to not breathe on your own . That poor bastard was just cooked regardless.

[Shaid]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

It does not train you to not breathe on your own

It 100% felt that way to me. My lungs more would open to allow air in then breathe on my own. That said, coming up with a zero on the CPAP score was something they had said they never saw so maybe that's how my body decided to adapt to it.

I know the doctor said most people like them once they are on them and didn't realize how bad their sleep was until they get on CPAP, that was not my experience though.

[luv]

I went to the hospital for my test. The hardest part was trying to sleep in a different place, and on my back (I was a side sleeper). No experience with home tests or how they work.

While at the test, they tried the full mask and the nose mask. Nose mask was definitely a no-go. I use the full mask (covers nose and mouth). I'd say it took maybe a week to get used to.

Going camping, whenever I go, we just try to find a campsite with electric outlet. If you travel, your CPAP can go on the plane with you and does not count as a carry-on.

The biggest negative about the CPAP, IMO, using the full mask, is that my mouth gets dry. It doesn't do wonders for the teeth.

[wazu]

Okay but it is helping you to breath with less effort. Now the body has a "crutch" in performing that function while you sleep. And it seems logical that one would grow to be more and more dependent on that crutch. That doesn't mean it's a bad idea if somebody is already experiencing health problems, but it does seem worth considering.

[luv]

Originally Posted by wazu

Okay but it is helping you to breath with less effort. Now the body has a "crutch" in performing that function while you sleep. And it seems logical that one would grow to be more and more dependent on that crutch. That doesn't mean it's a bad idea if somebody is already experiencing health problems, but it does seem worth considering.

You still breath like normal. Otherwise, it wouldn't work. It's not doing the breathing for you. Just pushing more in whenever you do.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by luv

You still breath like normal. Otherwise, it wouldn't work. It's not doing the breathing for you. Just pushing more in whenever you do.

I get it's not a ventilator. But "pushing more in" is aid/assistance that does seem like your body would become more reliant on over time, because your body no longer has to compensate for the original problem.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by wazu

I get it's not a ventilator. But "pushing more in" is aid/assistance that does seem like your body would become more reliant on over time, because your body no longer has to compensate for the original problem.

You are so wrong on all of this. Just stop posting about it.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by wazu

I get it's not a ventilator. But "pushing more in" is aid/assistance that does seem like your body would become more reliant on over time, because your body no longer has to compensate for the original problem.

Stop.

You don’t understand what you’re talking about.

Obstructive sleep apnea is not caused by issues with lungs. It is an issue with the soft tissue in your throat/esophagus and specifically with the muscles relaxing more than they should while resting and reclined.

There is no “training your body to do better.” There is no getting your body to compensate.

Unless you want to count a CPAP as training. CPAPs push air not to help you get oxygen in your lungs but to instead prevent the obstructive relaxation from occurring.

Not treating sleep apnea is a great way to end up in an early grave like my dad, whose heart was horribly damaged from living wirh sleep apnea his whole life and never treating it.