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07-06-2022, 10:24 PM | #61 | |
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But the US electrical supply and grid does need major, sustained investment. |
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07-06-2022, 10:29 PM | #62 | |
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07-07-2022, 07:25 AM | #63 |
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I have solar so in the end don't end up paying anything for electricity, maybe in the middle of summer it might go up to $30-50 a month but most months are zero so not worried about electricity.
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07-07-2022, 07:28 AM | #64 | |
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07-07-2022, 07:29 AM | #65 | |
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07-07-2022, 10:17 AM | #66 |
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07-07-2022, 10:23 AM | #67 | |
best in the biz
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Chip shortages do not equal shipping lithium to China to be refined. if you think the cost of electricity isn't going to rise, more power to you. |
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07-07-2022, 11:57 AM | #68 |
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07-07-2022, 12:46 PM | #69 | |
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If you can find one. I seen on the news where a dealer said they could sell 60 @ month if they weren't only getting one or two a month from factory. |
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07-07-2022, 03:23 PM | #70 | |
Sometimes it's black and white
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Switching from ICE to electric vehicles at any sort of scale is going to require investment in infrastructure. Retiring coal plants and replacing them with something else requires investment. High capacity, long distance transmission lines would help, but I don't think the country has the political will to overcome the opposition and NIMBYism (and again topic for DC). Industrial scale battery storage, whether it is traditional batteries or something like pumped hydro, is viable politically. It is a question of getting the costs down. No, I don't think things are going to be rainbows and unicorns. I'm not actually very optimistic about this situation. There are some types of investment the country generally does a poor job of. Again I don't want to get myself or this thread booted but I think Texas and California represent two extremes and I think both have left consumers in bad shape. |
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07-07-2022, 07:12 PM | #71 | |
Now you've pissed me off!
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07-07-2022, 07:27 PM | #72 |
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Let's not kid ourselves.
This is going to come down to having large battery banks charging solar at every house that owns an Electric vehicle. They'll develop a way to dump a lot of juice quickly from those banks into the car. Or a quick swap battery stock at every "gas" station. |
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07-07-2022, 10:59 PM | #73 |
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07-08-2022, 06:21 AM | #74 |
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nissan leaf is great if all you do is run around town. Won't help me much when I need to drive 400 miles for a trip
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07-08-2022, 06:52 AM | #75 |
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That pickup comparison video shows how abysmal range is now.
Maybe I’ll get a usable electric truck by the time I’m 80. |
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