Will the Chiefs win a Super Bowl with Andy Reid?

[FloridaMan88]

If Andy wants to win a Super Bowl he should look to his mentor/friend, Dick Vermeil as a guide.

Vermeil knew he had to go out of his comfort zone by hiring Mike Martz as his OC with the Rams and going from a ground/pound offensive identity (which was Vermeil’s preferred offensive philosophy going back to his Philly days) to the Greatest Show on Earth.

In Andy’s case, he should have resisted the temptation to hire a familiar DC (Spags) and instead go big/bold... Rex Ryan.

Learn from Vermeil, Andy and step out of your comfort zone to win a Super Bowl.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

If Andy wants to win a Super Bowl he should look to his mentor/friend, Dick Vermeil as a guide.

Vermeil knew he had to go out of his comfort zone by hiring Mike Martz as his OC with the Rams and going from a ground/pound offensive identity (which was Vermeil’s preferred offensive philosophy going back to his Philly days) to the Greatest Show on Earth.

In Andy’s case, he should have resisted the temptation to hire a familiar DC (Spags) and instead go big/bold... Rex Ryan.

Learn from Vermeil, Andy and step out of your comfort zone to win a Super Bowl.

There's a lot of truth in this assessment. It may not be entirely factual, however ... I mean, solely in the sense that Wally made the wrong choice in Spaggyboots.

Let's remember that there is value in system coherence. The Chiefs want to win now and Wally's prior relationship with Spaggyboots makes for a more harmonious transition of DCs. They know each other. They know how to work together. There is trust in place. Of course, we don't yet know if it was the right decision or not. Time will tell.

It seems to me that much of what I've read today on ChiefsPlanet is awash with recency bias. For example, there has not been any indication whatsoever that our special teams suck total ass under Toub ... until Sunday. Now, all of a sudden, there are calls for his head and the heads of all his relatives. Oh ... and we should decapitate all his friends while we're at it. It's illogical.

As for the defense, we've known that we had issues. We saw some growth and advancement over the prior couple of games then we gave up two incredibly unfortunate drives to the Tacks at a crucial time. Scoring drives that never should have happened. Is that a trend? Are we improving overall? Did we just collapse entirely? Who knows? But we know for sure that 2 drives do not a season make.

Meanwhile, Wally has called some great games and devised and called plays that were outstanding this year. They are on tape. However, in this game, he called a screen on 3rd and 2 to the 2nd string TE. That's a play that Mahomes liked a lot (and actually lobbied for) when they called and ran the same damn play against the Jacksons 11. The fans loved it against the Jacksons because it worked. But nobody likes the call now. But does that make Wally a complete tool?

We're probably in much better shape (season-wise) than we "feel" right now. Injury-wise it may be a very different story. But that story is yet to be told.

I counsel deep breaths and blowjobs until after we demolish the Electricians.

FAX

[Wallcrawler]

Situational football decisions win and lose games. Playoff games are rarely the blow your doors off 45-17 spectacle you see against teams in the regukar season.

These games will be tight, and Reid needs to know what to do in these games. Time and again, he has proven that he has literally no ****ing idea what he is doing.

You need to be able to understand the situation. Afirst down wins the game. I need 2 yards to get it, I have 2 downs to do it.

Nah pimpin.

Let's call a screen to the worst hands on the football team,and kick a fg if that fails, leaving the titans a chance.

Giving an opposing team a chance, letting them hang around, you lose.

Wasting timeouts instead of just calling a ****ing play and executing is a recipe for disaster.

The timeout before the 2 pt conversion? Why? 23 seconds remained and he burned a timeout.

Mahomes negated this with his greatness, managing to get us in fg range anyway.

Mahomes, as great as he is, CANNOT overcome ineptitude from the head coach enough times to win a title.

Reid's had over 2 decades. Been to one dance and went against arguably the greatest situation football mind of all time, Bill Belichick.

He lost.

Andy will win NOTHING of significance unless Mahomes drops 60 on everyone and let's Andy of the hook for any important decisions.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Situational football decisions win and lose games. Playoff games are rarely the blow your doors off 45-17 spectacle you see against teams in the regukar season.

These games will be tight, and Reid needs to know what to do in these games. Time and again, he has proven that he has literally no ****ing idea what he is doing.

You need to be able to understand the situation. Afirst down wins the game. I need 2 yards to get it, I have 2 downs to do it.

Nah pimpin.

Let's call a screen to the worst hands on the football team,and kick a fg if that fails, leaving the titans a chance.

Giving an opposing team a chance, letting them hang around, you lose.

Wasting timeouts instead of just calling a ****ing play and executing is a recipe for disaster.

The timeout before the 2 pt conversion? Why? 23 seconds remained and he burned a timeout.

Mahomes negated this with his greatness, managing to get us in fg range anyway.

Mahomes, as great as he is, CANNOT overcome ineptitude from the head coach enough times to win a title.

Reid's had over 2 decades. Been to one dance and went against arguably the greatest situation football mind of all time, Bill Belichick.

He lost.

Andy will win NOTHING of significance unless Mahomes drops 60 on everyone and let's Andy of the hook for any important decisions.

Well stated.

[yellowfin13x]

Absolutely ! But only when the defense shows up

[TribalElder]

cant close out the titans which is just ****ing pathetic

I don't see how andy ever wins the superbowl

he might have won one if he never put alex back in as the starter and would have went with mahomes in the playoffs his first year

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

We’re so undisciplined and that is a result of Andy Reid. He needs to be fired. We need a hard ass coach

[kjwood75nro]

The Chiefs winning a Superbowl will happen despite Andy, so knowing that he would get a ring would make the victory bittersweet (unless he promised to retire from HC afterwards).

He has no motivation or ability to protect Mahomes, which itself is unforgivable. He's a proven liability when it matters, and he couldn't give a **** about improving.

Mods should autocorrect "genius" to "fat ringless ****."

[FAX]

You guys have lost your minds.

Meditate. Think beautiful thoughts. Watch porn. Whatever it takes.

This negativity is pointless and counter-productive.

FAX THE SERENE

[ARROW2]

Originally Posted by FAX

You guys have lost your minds.

Meditate. Think beautiful thoughts. Watch porn. Whatever it takes.

This negativity is pointless and counter-productive.

FAX THE SERENE

Works for me....

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Our next HC needs to be someone who lights a fire underneath people’s asses and holds them accountable. Go Bruce Arians style or Rod Marinelli. If you don’t hustle you are benched or cut

[Nickhead]

too much of a players coach to win it all.

[MMXcalibur]

I'll say yes.

Eventually, these morons will field a defense that doesn't suck butt. May take a season or five, but they'll figure it out.

[Mahomesmyman]

Definitely not this year but I believe it will happen in future.