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Join Date: Oct 2011
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#61 |
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Played around this morning on NFLMock with 5 rounds. Traded out of the 1st. Went with a mixture of BPA and my own biases. Reached on a few. I think I would be happy with this haul. Missed a few needs by overloading on a couple, but...eh i'm good with it.
61 Will McDonald IV EDGE 63 Matthew Bergeron OT 80 Zach Harrison EDGE 81 Andre Carter II EDGE 95 Jayden Reed WR 114 Jaquelin Roy DL 122 Trey Palmer WR 132 Brandon Joseph S 134 Jonathan Mingo WR 168 Emil Ekiyor Jr. IOL |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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So what I'll say, is that it seems like the talent from like 25-45 is roughly equal. Trading down is a perfectly viable option to me.
But the picks they get better be in 2024, unless the value is too good to pass up. Because this team has 12 picks, and I am increasingly unsure that they Chiefs will have 12 roster slots. I think they'll trade up. So if you trade down, garner some picks in 2024. We have our original 7 picks there but can always use some additional ammo. (I anticipate we'll get some compensatory picks as well.) |
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Does he have length? Check Does he have athleticism? Check Does he have power? Check Does he have some bend? Check Does he have quality get-off? Check Does he have a closing burst? Check Is he productive? Check Can you move him around to exploit matchups? Check You can coach his hands and his pass-rush plan. |
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#65 | |
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Size-Dependent: Anudike-Uzomah, McDonald, Ojulari, Hall, and Herbig Outside looking in: Horton, McGuire My list will shrink after the Combine answers some questions. |
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#67 |
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No Trades and it turned out okay. We may need to trade a proven commodity for a proven tackle
31. Deonte Banks DB Banks is compared to Sneed. Definitely doesn't look like a need, 63. Nathaniel Dell WR (tiny, but I am confident we would get production from him 95. Karl Brooks DT (This guys size and strength seems like he could spell Jones when he has to come off. I think this will be great value. |
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#68 |
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I think he’s a quality prospect, but I don’t want to take a guy in the 1st who has to learn how to play football. A guy who needs refinement, I can live with. But this is a fixer upper who needs to floor boards ripped up. |
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#70 |
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Join Date: Jan 2015
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Notably uninterested in Andre Carter, eh? I'm curious what your thoughts are? He's got the size, could use some additional weight, but I thought he looked more like a more an OLB than DE on tape.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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In the 3rd I think I agree that I'd find someone else I like more. But by the 4th, I think he's going to be right in our wheelhouse of need/value. |
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If Isaiah McGuire is, and honestly even if Desjuan Johnson is on the board, I'd be more interested. |
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Fanspeak down for anybody else?
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#75 | |
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He has extremely limited strength and leverage. I think it could be a byproduct of military training instead of football training and what I mean is a large aspect of endurance involved over brute power. Not only does it kill him in the run game but he's not a great speed-to-power or power-to-win type of guy that the NFL needs you to be as a pass rusher. He doesn't have a fast enough get-off to consistently threaten NFL tackles with speed alone, plus he's not going to be going against the likes of UMass, Navy, Air Force, Western Kentucky, Troy, and Georgia Southern tackle quality either. The other is having the ability to set up a rush plan and use counters and his hands to win matchups. I'm just not sold there. I think he's a phenomenal blank canvas to work with but I think you want a more polished player in the first two rounds. I think a tertiary problem that he needs to work on is gaining some mass. He might be 250 pounds but he still looks thin. I'd like to see him more in the 275 range. I think that'll help him anchor more too, aside from adding strength. He can do all of these things but its not an overnight deal. |
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