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Old 07-16-2020, 06:17 PM   #2
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I am in Naples, FL for the summer and there are no mask requirements in the county here.

Even some of the big retailers that are enforcing a mask policy nationally... such as Costco don't rigidly enforce it in the stores here.

It is great.
Yes Florida is booming with new cases. Coincidence, I think not.
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Old 07-16-2020, 09:51 PM   #3
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Yes Florida is booming with new cases. Coincidence, I think not.
4 weeks ago we were seeing 40k new cases a day. Deaths lag, so deaths today should be reasonably accurate to compare to those cases. We've been about 950 deaths the last 2-3 days.

What can be derive from that? It would be two likely possible scenarios.
1) We are better at treating the virus now than we were in the Spring
2) More of the REPORTED cases are mild or asymptomatic

I have not seen much to indicate we've gotten much better at treating the virus, but someone correct me if I'm wrong, so it appears #2 is true. Either way we can conclude that if we had the testing abilities now in the Spring we would have seen many, many more reported cases. Cases do not tell the story. Deaths correlated with the cases 3-5 weeks before is a better indicator.

Either way, 1,000 a day is nothing to sneeze at. And if we maintain this level of social distancing and discredit mask wearing we are going to have to shut everything down this winter - or just allow 4,000 to 5,000 people a day to die.
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Old 07-17-2020, 07:57 AM   #4
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4 weeks ago we were seeing 40k new cases a day. Deaths lag, so deaths today should be reasonably accurate to compare to those cases. We've been about 950 deaths the last 2-3 days.

What can be derive from that? It would be two likely possible scenarios.
1) We are better at treating the virus now than we were in the Spring
2) More of the REPORTED cases are mild or asymptomatic

I have not seen much to indicate we've gotten much better at treating the virus, but someone correct me if I'm wrong, so it appears #2 is true. Either way we can conclude that if we had the testing abilities now in the Spring we would have seen many, many more reported cases. Cases do not tell the story. Deaths correlated with the cases 3-5 weeks before is a better indicator.

Either way, 1,000 a day is nothing to sneeze at. And if we maintain this level of social distancing and discredit mask wearing we are going to have to shut everything down this winter - or just allow 4,000 to 5,000 people a day to die.
Don't forget most of the country was on lockdown in the spring. I say the spike is a combination of better/more testing and people not maintaining social distancing. I like to knock back a few cold ones at my favorite watering hole, but if you pack the place and everyone is maskless (how do you drink beer weaing a mask?), of course the rate is going to go up.
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Old 07-17-2020, 01:18 PM   #5
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Yes Florida is booming with new cases. Coincidence, I think not.
Yeah and masks haven't done jack shit.

There have been mask mandates in Miami-Dade and Broward Counties since early April and that hasn't stopped the spread of the virus.
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Old 07-17-2020, 01:45 PM   #6
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Yeah and masks haven't done jack shit.

There have been mask mandates in Miami-Dade and Broward Counties since early April and that hasn't stopped the spread of the virus.
The mandates haven't been followed by everyone though. It seems that is what has been and continues to be the main problem, not everyone is going to follow the mandate.
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Old 07-17-2020, 04:49 PM   #7
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The mandates haven't been followed by everyone though. It seems that is what has been and continues to be the main problem, not everyone is going to follow the mandate.
Sooooo, you're saying we need 100% compliance for masks to be effective?
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Old 07-18-2020, 09:00 PM   #8
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The mandates haven't been followed by everyone though. It seems that is what has been and continues to be the main problem, not everyone is going to follow the mandate.
I agree. Mandates are pointless.
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Old 07-17-2020, 03:13 PM   #9
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Yeah and masks haven't done jack shit.



There have been mask mandates in Miami-Dade and Broward Counties since early April and that hasn't stopped the spread of the virus.
People have to wear them for it to be affective.

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Old 07-17-2020, 04:49 PM   #10
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People have to wear them for it to be affective.

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They require them in KC now. Had to go to the dmv. The number of people with their noses hanging out or wearing them under their chin was crazy.

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Old 07-16-2020, 08:34 AM   #11
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We tried several, but we were looking to buy local. I found this by digging around: https://www.kcppe.com/ We bought ours from Susan Ferguson and they work just fine. https://www.etsy.com/shop/BeautifullyWoven

I look at it this way. If I get 25% to whatever % protection from what other people are spewing in the air, groovy, that's better than 0%. If I can protect others whatever % (and it's close to 100%) from what bugs I'm spewing in the air, I'll do it. It's not that big of a deal. I know masks are hot, not very comfortable, etc., but this stuff has gotten out of control. I'll put my personal comfort aside for the greater good.
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Old 07-16-2020, 06:16 PM   #12
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Well the Governor of Arkansas made a mandate today making masks mandatory in public in the entire state of Arkansas. The news station said that they have been discussing fining people for not wearing masks and if people did not pay the fine it would be applied to their state income tax.
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Old 07-16-2020, 07:13 PM   #13
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Old 07-16-2020, 09:53 PM   #14
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Today work made masks mandatory for everyone while inside buildings or working closely with others outside. I wear glasses and the masks that are available or the pull over tube type of face mask fog up my glasses. Most of the masks I have seen suck on several levels.

What are you all wearing? Where you getting them from? How do you keep them from fogging up your glasses or shades?

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ive worn two both sucked but maybe 40 min total so tollerable
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Old 07-17-2020, 06:18 AM   #15
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