Indiana Jones 5: First Details

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https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2021/...5gsE-j2lqNlXGk

Plot and character details have still been kept tightly under wraps, until now. The Illuminerdi can exclusively reveal the roles of Mads Mikkelsen and Shaunette Renée Wilson. And on top of that, when the next installment of the Indiana Jones franchise will take place.

According to our sources, Mads Mikkelsen will be playing the villain in this new installment of Indiana Jones. His character is described to us as a Nazi scientist enlisted into NASA by the United States government to work on the space agency’s moon landing initiative.

Shaunette Renee Wilson will be playing Mads Mikkelsen’s villain’s CIA handler responsible for “babysitting” the Nazi scientist turned NASA recruit. There will also be a female villain, “an evil and brutal killer” who will work with Mads Mikkelsen’s character. According to our sources, Scarlett Johansson actually passed on this role previously.

Mads Mikkelsen’s character’s description not only reveals that he will be the villain of Indiana Jones 5, but when the franchise’s next installment will be taking place.

The next Indiana Jones adventure would logically be set during the 1960s space race. NASA’s Apollo 11 landed on the moon in 1969, so it wouldn’t be a shock for the film to be set later in the 1960s, especially since the fourth Indiana Jones film was set in 1957. And in classic Indiana Jones fashion it looks like our hat wearing, whip wielding, archeologist will have another chance to punch some Nazis, with Mikkelsen’s villain being a former scientist for Hitler’s Reich.

[BigBeauford]

This might make less in theaters than Uncharted lmao.

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japanese always have great posters

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[Just Passin' By]

$7.2 million yesterday

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it was OK

ending kinda blew it for me

Spoiler!

where they went was fine...very cool setpiece...what did they did when they got there? lame...frankly expected more than one time travel sequence

it was...fine?

frankly, i enjoyed crystal skull more....though DoD didn't hit the lows of Crystal Skull, the highs here weren't on that level, and the ending certainly doesn't compare

get rid of kathleen kennedy, please

3/5

i will say, PWB was not NEARLY as annoying as people thought she was going to be....she had a nice dynamic with Ford, and I enjoyed the character

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But then it reaches its final act, and suddenly all bets are off. The script hints at something wild from the off, but you’re never quite sure it’s going to go that wild. Believe us when we say: it goes that wild. It is a true swing for the fences. Dial Of Destiny has the kind of final showdown that almost makes the finale of Crystal Skull feel subtle.

To me, this was a lie.

It wasn't wild at all.

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by the way, now finally reading the "original ending" spoilers, i don't see how that could have been shot at all - i don't think that was ever a thing

Spoiler!

unless they actually were going to go back to nazi germany and do shit? what...exactly would they be doing? and...how? doesn't seem plausible

anyone got a link or more details?

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

by the way, now finally reading the "original ending" spoilers, i don't see how that could have been shot at all - i don't think that was ever a thing

Spoiler!

unless they actually were going to go back to nazi germany and do shit? what...exactly would they be doing? and...how? doesn't seem plausible

anyone got a link or more details?

Harrison Ford Admits Lucasfilm Reworked Ending Of ‘Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny,’ Appears To Confirm Leaks James Mangold Previously Denied

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

it was OK

ending kinda blew it for me

Spoiler!

where they went was fine...very cool setpiece...what did they did when they got there? lame...frankly expected more than one time travel sequence

it was...fine?

frankly, i enjoyed crystal skull more....though DoD didn't hit the lows of Crystal Skull, the highs here weren't on that level, and the ending certainly doesn't compare

get rid of kathleen kennedy, please

3/5

i will say, PWB was not NEARLY as annoying as people thought she was going to be....she had a nice dynamic with Ford, and I enjoyed the character

Props for coming back with this take. And it's exactly why I am very picky about what movies I spend $100 to see in theaters.

The one I'm leaning towards seeing is Dune.

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It's really ****ing lame we've wasted both of Harrison Ford's Swan Songs of beloved characters with Kathleen Kennedy at the helm.

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Harrison Ford Admits Lucasfilm Reworked Ending Of ‘Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny,’ Appears To Confirm Leaks James Mangold Previously Denied

lol

i hope this gets released in some format, i need to see it

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

It's really ****ing lame we've wasted both of Harrison Ford's Swan Songs of beloved characters with Kathleen Kennedy at the helm.

Force Awakens was fine, dude, and a fitting sendoff for Solo.

Kathleen needs to kick rocks, though.

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The ending does really feel like a missed opportunity.

Spoiler!

They could have done something amazing with Voller offering Indy the chance to save his son from Vietnam in exchange for letting Voller do whatever he wants with the Dial of Destiny, too.

A conflicted Indy struggles with the choice, but comes to his senses and does somethin' kickin' rad which results in a horrible death for Voller and the destruction of the Dial, as Basil Shaw wanted all along.

You can still have your epilogue with Marion and everything, and it comes together waaaay better.

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oh, this is a fun theory

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At the beginning of the movie they said the Spear was a fake because it was made from a recent alloy, but at the end of the movie they crash a Nazi era plane in a city soon to be sacked by Roman soldiers. Theoretically they could have taken the slain "dragon" and made weapons out of it...which is why it conveniently shows up on Indy's nightstand at the end

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this...is actually brilliant...even if not...really appropriate? for this franchise

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Indy's true character arc in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is more hidden, but once reflected upon it actually raised my opinion of the movie greatly.

Marion's grief was not the reason for their separation, but Indy's depression and numbness caused by the death of his son was. Indy in DoD is withdrawn from the world around him. It is likely he closed himself off from Marion and was blaming his own depression and grief issues on her to push her away, because like with most cases with men's mental health issues, Indy is a strong man, and his sadness isn't the problem.

At the beginning of the movie when we see Indy's apartment, it's mess. Indy is passed out drunk and unaware in his chair. As we find out later, there is barely any food there, so Indy is not taking care of himself. When the neighbors start playing loud music and we see angry Indy, he is not even aware it is "Moon Day". One of the biggest historical events of all time is happening, and Indy isn't even aware of it.

Then we get to the university, none of the students show an interest in what Indy has to say, and his colleagues can't wait to get him out of the door to his retirement. But, when Helena shows up and actually shows an interest in Indy's teachings, it starts to break him from his cycle of depression and gives him something worth exploring in his life again.

One of the criticisms I've read about DoD is: why is Indy even after the Dial? He really isn't. He's after the adventure again. Feeling alive and having something in his life that makes it worth living again. This is hinted at when Sallah drops him off at the airport, and Indy comments that the days of adventure are long behind them.

It isn't until the evening scene on the boat where Helena really begins to understand Indy though. She asks him what he would change if he could go back in time and Indy's answer was: "I'd stop my son from enlisting". Helena begins to care more for Indy at this point and can now see how his depression and grief has affected him and the great Indiana Jones she knew as a kid.

When they travel back in time towards the end, Indy wants to stay, and in Helena's mind, this is Indy fully giving into his depression and taking himself out of the world he belongs in. Indy is shot and is in a time where he would likely die very soon because of the lack of modern medicine. Indy wanting to stay is basically Indy wanting to kill himself, and Helena won't let that happen at any cost. She pleads with and eventually knocks out Indy and they navigate back to present day, with Helena knowing the only way Indy will ever be truly happy again is to reconcile with his wife, and get out of the cycle of depression he has been in.

Back in New York, Helena explains everything to Marion, and she now fully understands why Indy has been cold and withdrawn in their relationship, the grief is still affecting him, even more so than her, and Indy's lack of opening up about his feelings is what caused their strain. That is why the first thing Marion does is ask him: "Are you back?". She asks it several times to confirm he is able to break his cycle and try living again.

And then in the final shot, we see him pick the hat up again. Indy is ready to break the cycle. Indiana Jones is ready for adventure again.

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is more of a character study for men's mental health, and how grief can affect you and the relationships around you, and how that grief can eventually be overcome with the help of others and by choosing to keep going. Once I realized this hidden story, it made me look at the movie in a different light and appreciate it even more.