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*****The Rashee Rice Thread*****
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#721 |
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Other than to Tyreek Hill, Mahomes/Reid don't like to throw jump balls. Blake Bell is 6'6" and how many times can you think of Mahomes throwing a jump ball to him in the endzone? Reid can scheme up pretty much anything, yet he can't find a way to have Bell go against a 6' safety or LB?
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#723 |
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It’s not just about being big to win jump balls. It’s body control and coordination and tracking the ball and leaping ability, too.
I don’t think Bell has anything other than the size. |
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#724 | |
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And I can kinda count on 2 hands the balls like that he's gotten. |
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#727 | |
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It's like taking a guy that is fast for TE and saying he has DJax and Tyreek speed. Sure, compared to other TEs, I guess you can say he "has that", but no he actually doesn't have what Rice has. |
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Rice can. Because body control, like speed, is innate. Either you have it or you don't. Rice has it in spades. I think the Chiefs would like to have that ability in their arsenal. As you noted, Mahomes DID throw them to Hill and frankly Hill is the only guy we've had since maybe Bowe with that kind of body control. Even Maclin didn't have it; it was essentially a better version of MVS - very graceful and fluid in his cuts and in creating separation, but not a guy who was going to turn, leap, locate and rotate to a ball in one motion. Even Bowe's body control wasn't that type - it was more physical in nature. But Rice brings something we haven't had since Hill and when we had it, we put it to use. |
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He has spectacular body control for a TE, but he's an example similar to what I just mentioned - more like Bowe. He has great size/strength and could use that very well. But he's not a leaper. And frankly, I feel like you're underselling the number of times he HAS gone up for a ball. But ultimately he just works in different areas of the field. He works the seams and zones over the middle. He's just not someone who needs to get those kind of balls that often. But ultimately no - Kelce's remarkable because of his fluidity as a TE and how much agility he has at a size that makes it damn near impossible to cover him with a CB. But if you put him in a tier with WRs and grade his raw athleticism, we're talking B-/C+ at best. Kelce wins by being big, durable, tough and DAMN smart. |
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Maybe it's because they haven't had anyone who could, but they also haven't gone out of their way to get someone that does it. |
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Remember, the DC doesn't know where he's going to line up when he puts his sub package out there. He's not sending NCBs out there to man up on Kelce every time just in case he splits out wide. I mean just look at the traits. He's probably not even a 4.8 guy anymore. The leaping ability is...nominal at best. Just watch the guy and tell me he's winning through innate athleticism. He just isn't. I've mentioned this before but the times he's left guys grasping at air are because he's using his feet/hips to make his next move before he's even caught the ball. It's really amazing shit. |
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He gets to 4th gear quickly and then just doesn't have a 5th gear. That's pretty much EXACTLY how Michael Thomas succeeded. |
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