***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

China, a country of a billion people, only has 81,000 confirmed cases and you think we at least triple that with a third of the population?

Maybe if you consider the country that is confirming those numbers maybe

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

China, a country of a billion people, only has 81,000 confirmed cases and you think we at least triple that with a third of the population?

They were a bit more aggressive with their lockdown, but I don’t think we get close to the worst case scenario.

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

China, a country of a billion people, only has 81,000 confirmed cases and you think we at least triple that with a third of the population?

you think China would have let all the college kids go to the beach for spring break? Walking petri dish potential going on right now...

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Dominos is giving me the squirts and I'm down to half a roll of TP

PM Hog, he’s got 96 rolls of TP coming tomorrow. Barter.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Maybe if you consider the country that is confirming those numbers maybe

Or maybe consider the possibility that this is being sensationalized by the media and many people are panicking and making dumb predictions based on fear.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

LOL

I think we’ll have several hundred thousand confirmed cases and 10x - 200x that in asymptomatic and mild cases.

Crap. I already said that I think we'll end up having a few hundred thousand cases.

[Monticore]

My aunt is stuck in Spain right now , went for a walk and just few minutes in she was told by police to go back to her apartment.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Lol at the idiots who were downplaying this.

You're not downplaying it anymore are you?

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Or maybe consider the possibility that this is being sensationalized by the media and many people are panicking and making dumb predictions based on fear.

I feel like people have minimized this every step of the way actually, including the media because nobody really believed that we'd all be stuck in our houses and everything would be closed.

The media didn't create this.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

China, a country of a billion people, only has 81,000 confirmed cases and you think we at least triple that with a third of the population?

Yes.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Pennsylvania Gov. Wolf orders ‘all non life-sustaining’ businesses in state to close or face enforcement action

https://www.fox43.com/mobile/article...9-49068cfa168c

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

you think China would have let all the college kids go to the beach for spring break? Walking petri dish potential going on right now...

We should quarantine everyone 65 or older and those with conditions that put them at greater risk of death and tell everyone else to go about their lives business as usual. Make the bell curve of this thing taller and decrease the timespan. Instead we are trying to flatten the curve and dragging this out for way too long while also crippling the economy and damaging millions of people financially.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

We should quarantine everyone 65 or older and those with conditions that put them at greater risk of death and tell everyone else to go about their lives business as usual. Make the bell curve of this thing taller and decrease the timespan. Instead we are trying to flatten the curve and dragging this out for way too long while also crippling the economy and damaging millions of people financially.

That won't work. The virus will just continue to spread at a rapid rate if we do that and hospitals would get overwhelmed.

[burt]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I feel like people have minimized this every step of the way actually, including the media because nobody really believed that we'd all be stuck in our houses and everything would be closed.

The media didn't create this.

And I still think China UNDER reported. But looking at all the initial reports, it really wasn't showing to be much more than the flu. Well, that sure changed in a hurry. I still think we haven't heard the whole truth. The measures we are taking are unprecedented. And approaching cataclysmic!

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I've already traded TP for beer at the drive thru liquor store.

I doubled my money too.

Cleanasses!

Fixed